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Vanity, skins, etc.

Vanity, skins, etc.

I'm looking at all of these Object Desktop themes and all I see are a bunch of beveled, rounded, big sloppy edges. This is definitely not eye-candy. I'm not much for making these themes or I'd do it myself, but I'd like to see something with flat, plain, smooth edges streamline and futuristic without the mess and garbage. Simplistic. You know what I mean? For example, everyone is raving over this "Killer Suite" but I took one look at the dock that was made and saw this ugly bubbled out mess of a creation. I want transparency, smooth, streamline and FLAT plains with hover effects and shadows. If someone could do this, I'm positive they'd get much more of a positive reaction out of these people than what these guys throwing out these bubbled garbage heaps are getting. Someone hook me up so I can have a good desktop. After all.. I paid money for OD.
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Reply #26 Top
I just reread #21....your not using ODNT...your using StyleXP? Don't know of a way to port a WB to a MSStyle
Reply #27 Top
I'm not using stylexp, just the uxtheme.dll or whatever for msstyles. The reason I don't use stylexp or windowblinds is because I don't want to have a 'whole' program installed just to skin my system if all I have to do is add a .dll to my system.
Reply #28 Top
Sorry....I'm not much help here with this uxtheme.dll....I tend to steer clear of hacked system files Just a personal preference thing.
Reply #29 Top
That's the funny thing.. Most of my desktop modifications came from editing system files, replacing and editing.. I never was scared to dig deep for something that I wanted to do with my desktop. Reinstalling is easy when you have 540gigs of hd space to back up your stuff on.
Reply #30 Top
...and then, without warning, jealousy rears it's ugly head....

Don't like the art? Don't LOOK AT IT ya fool.


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Reply #32 Top
i personally like my Glossy,bubbly desktop (shown in my profile). wink
to each his own i say.

i guess sum havent heard the phrase "if u dont have any thing nice to say its best to not say anything".

while i agree the squared glossy themes get a little redundant, they are of good quality and nice to look at ... definately not crap....

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Reply #33 Top
ooch, hellish911, you're the Howard Dean of skinning discussions, aren't you? j/k

Not quibbling with your ideas per se, but jeez you'd probably could incite more interest for some one to work with you if you exercised a tad more tact.

Although you do appear to like some of essorant's work so that's a redeeming feature.

The GUI Olympics likely will be an occasion for people to pull out the stops and do the tour de force thing so I'm guessing there won't be many really minimalistic skins. But perhaps someone will submit some adventures in minimalism just to widen the variety of works.


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Reply #34 Top
Not nessesarily minimalistic, but definitely something with taste. Maybe some flat functional menu's with a floating effect and good color coordination. Shadows, etc. When I see these themes on here, I see people looking for depth by using the domed shapes and rounded looking menu's. But that, for some reason tends to turn me off. That's why I say 'floating' and shadows.. I see it as a better way to add depth. But I think in the GUIOlympics, they'll be looking for great functionality and even better looks Good color coordination, maybe some GUI movement, like moving hidable menu's and fading effects, but very smooth and very streamline. Something that's catchy, but not overdone.
Reply #35 Top
Try playing with WindowFX....has a lot of different effects...Shadows, Transitions effects, Fades, Transparency, Window Tiling...
Reply #36 Top
Yea, I really like that program. I'm starting to mess with DesktopX2.10 and I'm creating new objects, but I have no idea where to start. Are there any tutorial's that I could look over to get an idea of what does what?
Reply #37 Top
https://www.stardock.com/products/desktopx/resources.asp Various Stardock Guides
Reply #40 Top
the closest I've seen to what I think people with real taste are looking for.


Hmmm - whilst I agree with you that a lot of themes/skins here (and everywhere else) tend to be of a kind (guilty myself) this phrase implies that what you like is the only thing that can be "real taste"...and of course anything you don't like is poor taste by definition then. On that attitude I couldn't disagree with you more.

As an example of something I'm trying to do to be different, see this thread: https://www.wincustomize.com/msgboard.asp?BID=WCS&id=251880 - though, I think I'd agree with you didn't call this theme "good taste"
Reply #41 Top
Yes, well what's good taste to one may not be good taste to another, whether we're talking art or cuisine. For instance, presumably someone must think those velvet Elvis paintings are tres chic.



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Reply #42 Top
I could say the same for this post.. Don't like what I have to say, don't comment on it. Ya fool.



I could say the same for the skins... if ya don't like them... Shut up.

BTW: If you want something simple and futurustic... maybe https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=1&SkinID=3789
Reply #43 Top
Hellish, you have a right to say what you want to say, and how you want to say it. I just want to say a little something too.

That guy who made killer, do you know he didn't even know about skinning anything until very recently (like only about 8 months back)? Do you know that he is a very nice, hard working (carpenter by trade and not a graphic design specialist) guy that goes out of his way to listen to people and to help them? I happen to think that he is extremely talented and I know he doesn't deserve the feelings your rant is bound to elicit.

Just like you have a right to say what you want, and how you want, so does he have a right to come to skinning, play with visual styles, learn and contribute without being abused. Heck, he is so new to the field of skinning that he hasn't even had a chance to really experience the things you are already tired of.

I admit I didn't read this whole thread. I will go back to do that later. I saw a friend taking abuse and I am stepping in now to say a word. When I calm my anger, I will come read the whole entire thing.

Reply #44 Top
goodmorphing, I've already emailed Tiggz and apologized and also asked him if he would help me with designing what I'd like to see more of on here. I came off very crudely and I do apologize. I hope everyone understands.
Reply #46 Top
My brain hurts after reading all this....
Reply #48 Top
na, thats just your head attempting to reverse itself back out from being wedged between your butt cheeks

( taking a conversation to the negative to catch someones eye/mind and shifting it back to the positive is rather bothersome, time consuming and also chancing not getting them to flip where you expected if at all. One has to be ready for that eventuality, frankly speaking most do not just turn over and flip as expected)

Seriously though...

You can say nothing and say much or you can say a lot and saying nothing at all. It all depends on how you approach it with the presentation.

Singling out specific people (or their work)is not the way to get a point across. From what I read you lost it a the begining of the thread by basically calling all other than what you like crap. Then attempting to throw a snide shoulder at anyone who questioned you on the guantlet youhad laid down on yuor own.

Yes, I also feel that less is more in many instances, but at the sametime know that explosive works just as well for others. If you like a style sitck with it, but don't be disrespectful of the other styles and or people making them just because it is not your cup of tea so to speak.

At that point... I would think that it is up to *you* to learn the applications, test your artistic talents and either keep what you have come up with or share it with others. But in no way did the purchase of Stardock products buy you themes on demand. (meaning, you bought the product which gives you the ability to do with it as you like as far as creating your own themses and access to this site to download others themes, anything beyond that is cake and cookies ( don't like em, don't eat em ))

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Reply #50 Top
My whole life has been for nothing. Thank you hellish911 for helping me to see the true worthlessness of my work, and prompting me to do something to resolve the issue. Later tonight I'll be deleting all of my over-saturated bubbly crap from the site, after which I will wander down into my basement and make friends with a noose.

Thank you. You've saved me the torture of going through another 50 years of meaningless toil, producing increasing amounts of bevelled garbage to feed the ever-increasing trash heap of skinning.

Farewell my friends.