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Demigod Clans - Clan pacov

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There's another post that cover's alot of this, but this thread is specifically for clan pacov.  Here's the other thread:

http://forums.demigodthegame.com/374590

Here we go:  there aren't alot of demigod clans out there.  The game CURRENTLY has less than 500 people that play together at any given time online.  I can't back that number up, but I think that's fairly reasonable based on what I've seen.  Out of those 500 or so players, many of those players many have bad connections and some outright cheat.  You probably don't want to play with them.  I probably don't either.  So, getting a group of people together that don't cheat or have bad connections is a pretty good idea IMO.  Plus, coordinating a team in demigod is MUCH easier if you have voicechat.  Let's do that too. So - players with good connections + players that use voicechat (at least to listen in) = clan pacov.  Its pretty much an all welcome scenario so long as you fit that criteria.  Here's the info you need to join voicechat:

Here is where you can download the client (its free):   http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php

Here are instructions on how to use ventrilo to connect to a server:  http://www.ventrilo.com/setup.php

Here is the public vent info: 

Lagwars vent
Hostname:  Oxygen.typefrag.com
Port:  50216

Once you join the vent, PM someone in clan pacov.  Each of our channels are password protected but there are plenty of public channels to idle in and people clan pacov check out the pub channels from time to time.

Here's what we deliver.  You get more balanced games with people that don't cheat.  I regularly balance games out to encourage more people to play with and against us.  

Ask questions if you have them and any clan pacov specific discussions belong here (casual, serious, etc).

Clan Pacov Mission Statement:

Clan pacov isn't about forming team super premade.  Its about frequently getting fun games going and occassionally getting some really competitive games going as well.  We welcome like minded, non-devisive individuals interested in playing games on a semi-regular basis.  We don't welcome people who cheat at games.  We will mix up teams to make things fun.  We will all generally be using voicechat.  We will play with and against each other.  We will play with and against other clans.

FYI - the clan channel is most active between 6PM-2AM EST daily, but people are on all hours of the days

 

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Reply #27 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Teseer, reply 26
I think that's it's charm
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Indeed.  Its quite rediculous.  Anyway, jon pm'd me some thoughts... I'm guessing some of this will be discussed here and some through pm's or on vent at some point.  I was thinking of some of the pros and cons of adding the clan tag (and jon beat me to the punch on that as well).  I'm going post a little of what jon was discussing with me to get some feedback.  Let me know if I've posted anything you'd like removed, jon.

The benefits with clan tags:

1.  People feel included and have the ability to sliently represent the group when not playing with the group.

2.  A tag will make it official as to who is in and who is not in clan Pacov and clan versus clan matches would be easier.

3.  It would be a nice throwback to the guys we've been playing with for the last 6-12 months.

Downfalls of clan tags: 

1.  Who will be able to wear the tag and why?  If anyone who plays demigod & has vent. gets to wear the tag then it loses it's appeal. 

2.  What will the selection process be and what criteria will have to be met to enter Clan Pacov ?

3.  Who will be able to invite people into clan pacov (my suggestion is that you are the only person who can provide invites)

4.  Goofballs who wear the tag but act like idiots in other servers will reflect poorly on the clan.

And some of my thoughts - a clan tag sounds like a reasonable option on one level.  For instance, all of the other clans are currently using them.  Our clan, which is probably the largest or at the very least typically has the most players in game, doesn't bother with them.  But, because we don't use a tag, i think that might make our little clan less threatening, in a good way, actually.  For instance, we regularly get people from GL clan just joining our games and mixing things up.  They play with and against us.  If we throw a tag on, then it stands to reason that some of these games will start to take more of the shape of GL vs clan pacov.  This is fine, but I'm reasonably confident that most of the people playing in clan pacov just enjoy mixing things up.  Once we start saying its only GL vs pacov, then now people who might want to play with a buddy on GL are in the position of having to switch clans or whatever. 

Regarding membership into the clan - well, I've been pretty clear that its generally an all welcome thing.  As a result, though, we get players of varying skill levels.  This factor alone makes it more difficult to complete with the other clans.  So, I could cut the fat, so to speak, and drop players that aren't at the skill level that some of us are at, but that's not really what I'm looking to do.  My primary goal is still to be able to get up to 5v5 games going the majority of the time I'm available to play.  And that goals has been generally successful... but its a direct result of my willingness to be inclusive and invite folks to join us.  

 

Sins of a Solar Empire II
Reply #28 from Demigod Forums Top

Regarding clan tags:

First, I think that is something that only "serious" clans do. Right now, CP is the "casual" clan with about 50% "casual" players and our focus seems to be in-house alternate playstyle games (yeti/shadow wars, lots of 5v5s in general, Favor mod games, uberFix games). What we bring to the table that most other clans don't is our SIZE. We are HUGE and this means that, more or less, we can always be playing with or against someone in the clan since someone is bound to be logged on. Similarily, I have no idea who is actually part of our clan and who is just hanging around. Eg, I would never consider Thunder to be in Clan Pacov even though he has been using our vent recently. 

Clan tags denote organization. Right now, we have none. We have no official roster, I don't know the vast majority of "best" demigods who everyone has, I don't know peoples builds. Now, part of that is that I just don't play a lot with you guys, so I guess that's my fault. But, still, we have no organization.

Currently, I know that gL operates basically under a loose dictatorship: what Omnicron says, goes. I know that GM is much more hierachel and they actually have "roles" that they play inside of it (I also consider GM to be the clan really focused on only including the best players in the game: that is a lot different than CP's focus which is lots of in-house and casual games). CP has... no real leadership. We kind of have "old-timers" and "new-timers" but there really is no authority chain or anything else like that.

 

If we do the whole "clan" thing then we are actually going to have to do "tryouts". They could be as simple as just playing against say, TB/Sedna/Queen / Pacov/Hedgie/Trouser and not doing horribly. I would assume that all of the old-timers would be automatically eligible ;) But what about irek and RAWR?

If we create clan tags and someone fails to complete the tryouts are they still allowed to play on our Vent? Or they just not allowed to wear the tag? I'd be okay with basically a "tiered" system where the people who WANT to be competitive and represent the clan as a whole (and good enough to) wear the tags and all the "casual" players get to play in the vent and enjoy all the in-house games but no clan tag for them. But it still sort of goes against the whole "all welcome" feel that CP currently has. Again, our focus is playing 4v4s and 5v5s, not winning high-level 2v2s or 3v3s.

Plus, even though I do consider myself a "clan member" I'm not 100% sure I would use a clan-tag on myself unless everyone else did (peer pressure is a bitch ;) ). I don't play with you guys a lot, I'll completely admit and I'm not a HUGE fan of 5v5s and "Yeti Wars" and stuff. I reallly enjoy 4v4 Levi and silly games with doubles and stuff are fun and it's new and refreshing and good to do from time-to-time. But it's not why I bought the game, so I don't strictly fit the definition of CP.

 

Basically, I think we need to re-assess what type of clan we are going to be, and define that NOW. Right now we are really a casual clan. What about if we had two tags? CP and CPC <- Clan Pacov Casual. Casual has very low requirements (don't be more of a dick than pacov, have vent and at least listen, don't cheat or drop games, be halfway decent at the game and willing to learn). The "CP" members are the "official" members who are more fit to do clan v clan games.

Also I want a private channel in vent "Hedgie's Antisocial Channel" ;)

 

Reply #29 from Demigod Forums Top

Also I want a private channel in vent "Hedgie's Antisocial Channel"
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Done.

Right now, CP is the "casual" clan with about 50% "casual" players and our focus seems to be in-house alternate playstyle games
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Pretty fair statement.  I've been alot more about getting alternative style games going than just the plain games. 

I'll completely admit and I'm not a HUGE fan of 5v5s and "Yeti Wars" and stuff. I reallly enjoy 4v4 Levi and silly games with doubles and stuff are fun and it's new and refreshing and good to do from time-to-time. But it's not why I bought the game, so I don't strictly fit the definition of CP.
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Yeah, but its pretty reasonable to say that what I typically enjoy doing in Demigod is playing the more competitive games.  All of these silly games we've been doing lately are just fun, goof off games.  I can't really see myself playing in them exclusively.  I'd eventually get quite bored. 

Basically, I think we need to re-assess what type of clan we are going to be, and define that NOW. Right now we are really a casual clan. What about if we had two tags? CP and CPC <- Clan Pacov Casual. Casual has very low requirements (don't be more of a dick than pacov, have vent and at least listen, don't cheat or drop games, be halfway decent at the game and willing to learn). The "CP" members are the "official" members who are more fit to do clan v clan games.
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I suppose that makes sense, but who of our original core group would be on board for this naming convention?

Reply #30 from Demigod Forums Top

I'm going to walk trouser through the sins of a solar empire demo (probably tonight).  If anyone wants to join in, grab the demo (you need that even if you own the game).  I'm also going to try out the new aliens vs pred (demo on steam) if anyone is interested... and then back to demigod.  You want to join us, grab those demos now.

Reply #31 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting pacov, reply 30
I'm going to walk trouser through the sins of a solar empire demo (probably tonight).  If anyone wants to join in, grab the demo (you need that even if you own the game).  I'm also going to try out the new aliens vs pred (demo on steam) if anyone is interested... and then back to demigod.  You want to join us, grab those demos now.
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Do the demos include the latest Illum nerf?

 

Reply #32 from Demigod Forums Top

Do the demos include the latest Illum nerf?
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i don't really know... its just a demo for the original i think of SOASE... just trying to see if some peeps here like that style of game or not.

Reply #33 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting pacov, reply 32

Do the demos include the latest Illum nerf?


i don't really know... its just a demo for the original i think of SOASE... just trying to see if some peeps here like that style of game or not.
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Isn't the play time on the demo limited? It was for me I think.

Reply #34 from Demigod Forums Top

just trying to see if some peeps here like that style of game or not.
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Its awesome I have entrenchment and am debating diplomacy.

Reply #35 from Demigod Forums Top

Isn't the play time on the demo limited? It was for me I think.
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i really don't know... will know after tonight... just trying to get a few more of demigod buddies playing :)

Reply #36 from Demigod Forums Top

Let me know if you end up playing the retail Sins.  I'd play some multiplayer there as well :)

Reply #37 from Demigod Forums Top

I'd play some multiplayer there as well
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I'll play ,but I've never played Sins online cause I like the whole take 16billion hours to finish a game

Reply #38 from Demigod Forums Top

lolz... so the demo of SOASE is SP only... oh well on that idea

Playing dg now

 

Reply #39 from Demigod Forums Top

may i add...your not rlly a clan unless...

1. you have a clan TAG...

2. you have some sort of recruitment system...not just anyone who is in your vent is in clan pacov <kinda strange method there> >_>

3. you have some sort of organized game system.. keeping track of people in your clan(vent works fine)
also as well getting into the clan wars thing makes it seem more real...

you guys are more like a team then a clan..you have the vent and you have the people but your missing the most important thing and that is the CLAN TAG. and as far as people missbehaving in a game well just dont recruit assholes..and who can invite people to the clan is completely up too you..

i would like to see clan pacov start wearing a tag..

oh and dont think we are not gona play with you just cause you have a tag.. gL members do games with GM members.

Reply #40 from Demigod Forums Top

Let me know if you end up playing the retail Sins. I'd play some multiplayer there as well
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I'm all about retail sins... picked up diplomacy as well. 

Its awesome I have entrenchment and am debating diplomacy.
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$10 bucks... how bad can it be :)  It actually does add quite a bit of depth.

2. you have some sort of recruitment system...not just anyone who is in your vent is in clan pacov
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I agree and disagree.  I'm still debating on how to handle all of this.  As it stands, its an all welcome channel for anyone who wants to get a game going.  And we currently draw a nice crowd of various folks plus some people from gL.  And that's great.  I'm not looking to recruit anyone from any other clan at all.  I am looking for decent people, on vent, to play with on a regular basis.  And at this point, I see that happening pretty frequently.  It might happen less if people have the impression that they are being a shite to their clan by joining my games if their buds aren't online, so I hope no one has that impression.

The clan tag concept is still up in the air.  Not sure who really wants it or cares about it.  I know hedgie wants to get a roster going at the very least... though I'm not sure what he's on about at this point.

Reply #41 from Demigod Forums Top

Oh - and its actually really good to say - there's a pretty decent amount of people in the 3 clan channels tonight.  About 8 per clan right now.  Great stuff!

Reply #42 from Demigod Forums Top

Sounds fun, though I'm weirded out by the name.  Is Pacov just a name, like Clan Mikey or Clan George?

Reply #43 from Demigod Forums Top

I don't have either Sins xpac yet but I'll pick them up for $20.  The game is fun.

As far as CP goes I jumped into the vent in order to try and get some balanced games going.  I took a bit of time off from DG and my stats are all down to 0 right now.  I'd say I am at an intermediate skill level.  I have always enjoyed the balanced games that pacov and hedgie have hosted.  I have no issue with being in the second-tier of membership if that is how things work out.  I'm sure we will still get some enjoyable games going in the trenches.

Well, unless it becomes crazy-elitist-hardcore-clan and anything below the cream gets poured off.  Then I might have to look for clan AR (also ran).  Hopefully if that is how things move forward you can look at having a JV farm team...

 

Reply #44 from Demigod Forums Top

I don't have either Sins xpac yet but I'll pick them up for $20. The game is fun.
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Pick it up!  Perhaps we'll get a game going this weekend. 

Well, unless it becomes crazy-elitist-hardcore-clan and anything below the cream gets poured off.
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You'll be just fine, Mauxe.  No worries.

Reply #45 from Demigod Forums Top

Sounds fun, though I'm weirded out by the name. Is Pacov just a name, like Clan Mikey or Clan George?
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just a name

Reply #46 from Demigod Forums Top

Sounds fun, though I'm weirded out by the name. Is Pacov just a name, like Clan Mikey or Clan George?

just a name
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Just curious about what is weird about it.

Myself, I am not that fond of pet (dog/cat) names that are too similar to cultural people names that I am used to.  Jim, Steve, Mike...  if someone introduces a dog to me with a name like that I am instantly a bit wary.  I suppose I should be wary of the owner more than the dog..  yet oddly I am more comfortable if they present "Mr. Tuppins" or "Snuffles"...  at least at that point I am more sure of the crazy.

"Pacov" doesn't hold any cultural references for me and I think that because of that I don't mind not distinguishing the name between a person and a group.  (With a quick search I see that it is the name of a town in the Vysočina Region of the Czech Republic.)

Anyhow, just curious.  Nothing more.

Reply #47 from Demigod Forums Top

Jongault and I picked up BF2 bad company 2 on PC and will be playing some of the beta tonight if anyone else was looking to get on that bandwagon as well. 

Reply #48 from Demigod Forums Top

We need to get some SupCom goin! ;)

Would be crazy go nuts if we could get a 5+ FFA going. Maybe even a game of phantoms! (Not the retarded way people play online. Starting the game un-allied)

Reply #49 from Demigod Forums Top

Yay Supcom!

 

 

Reply #50 from Demigod Forums Top

We need to get some SupCom goin!

Would be crazy go nuts if we could get a 5+ FFA going. Maybe even a game of phantoms! (Not the retarded way people play online. Starting the game un-allied)
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pacov = terrible at competitive MP with Supcom... as in I've played SP... and that's about it.