I think I should be more clear about my intention. i don't want any ones work to go to waste...ever. Nor was I wanting to step on anyones toes. My apologies indeed if it appears that way. I actually like the hud from a traditional standpoint. I also wouldn't want to replace your mod textures in your file system. When I finish with my work (If you would like) I am willing to offer it as a side mod that you can add to your downloads as an alternate hud design. I currently have it running seperate anyways, I simply activate it after I've activated SOA2. This way the purist's can opt out of it and keep the traditional lcars exactly as you have intended them to be.

Its not for me to decide the the outcome nor design of your mod and I respect your decision.

While the Hud is part of the UI the current Hud did not take all that long and I needed new shapes anyway. 

So don't worry undertow, if the team liked it I would replace it with yours. That's why I asked to see it and my toes fell off in the Winter of '87. Again it is very good and I might use it for Romulan or Borg or Dominion if the team OKs it and you OK it.

Keep up the good work.

Quick (dumb) question.  The entrenchment Fleet Size mod will not work with Diplomacy correct?

Yea, it's fine with me. I'm looking into what it takes to make huds work for other races. I can read scripts and a bit of code But I'm no programmer. That's what I have my friend xCynicx for he's awesome with that sorta stuff. I'll let you know how it goes.

Please don't lose the LCARS.  Without them it isn't Trek.

Can i ask somthing plz its got me baffled how did you make the races start on a custom map in the place i would put them ? it sames that they start in random places.

RandomStartPositions FALSE

tell the planet to be owned by a race in the dropdown in GF

Hey myfist0, I also tried to do that but for some reason every time I use Randomstartposition FALSE all any race I chose starts off in Earth. Am I doing something wrong?

Correct.

No GF is completely lacking in that respect.

1st home planet assigned to player 1
2nd home planet assigned to player 2
3rd home planet assigned to player 3 
etc..

The big 10 player map I am working on will need a specific setup tp play

pl1 fed at bajor
pl2 klingon at kronos
pl3 is Rom at Romulous
pl4 is Dom at some planet
pl5 is Fed at earth
pl6 is klingon near kronos
pl7 is Rom at Remus
pl8 is Dominion at some planet way off
pl9 is Dominion at some planet way off 
pl10 is Dominion at some planet way off 

each race starts with a partner like feds at bajor and earth are team 0. Or just play with first 4 players with no teams

in multi plyr 1 is always at bajor. Leaving players on random you will have all the races at other peoples home planet

you can lock slots 2 and 3 to computer and let a friend join then at Dominion spot ply 4

best i can find out so far

OK, I just downloaded the Diplomacy version and I have only 2 words to say to the mod team:

FRACKING AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It took a little while to figure out everything on the HUD, but now it looks so Trek!!!  I was blown away when I first fired everything up.  And I love the new background music with Picard's voiceover.... nice touch!

I haven't played a full game yet... maybe later tonight... but so far what I'm seeing I'm liking a lot!!!

Thank you all again for your hard work!!!!

 I think Jim deserves his 1st karma for such a nice compliment. 

I totally agree with just_jim. I always wanted the offspring of Star trek armada and birth of the federation.Now we have it.Like the movie Pineapple express says "This is the product of baby *******" lol

My inspiration for this in the beginning (aside from the original SoA mod which much of the models came from) was the old SFB based board game "federation, and empire". Obviously SoA 2 evolved into its own niche.

I wanted to do a mod from the SFB universe, but it would have been a huge undertaking (especially since i was the only modeler for a long time). Not to mention if ADB got wind of it we would have been shut down faster than you can say warp speed. So something "similar" set in the TNG era will have to do

An amazing job guys, after playing DS,7DS this is the mod 4 me.... Even if i cant stop the Borg from assimilation my ships at this point....lol.. Im looking 4 a mod that will make seeing the info in the UI better has anyone made such a mod?

Awwwww, I gots a Kharma point!  hehehe

I didn't  have a chance to play a full game, but I played around a little last night... surprise after surprise...

I love the skyboxes.  I fired up "Derelict" and had a red star, and this beautiful red/blue sort of nebula.... nice touch!

I'm not sure if I should mention all the cool things I'm finding... don't want to be a spoiler..

But one thing did make my jaw kinda drop.... "A Starbase Cloak???"  WOW.....  VERY nice touch on a VERY nice looking Starbase.... hehehe

Feel free to discuss anything released. Only stuff in the works or ideas are kept internal. Always looking for feedback, even bad, if it is not just complaining and there are solutions or alternatives to offer.

Not sure what you mean by that. Can you be more specific? 

Ok, So I was working on Klingon and romulan huds last night and these are the two I came up with.

Nice!!!   Too bad you couldn't change the languages and fonts as well... an HUD in Klingon would be over the top... but also probably require a translation manual... lol.

MyFist, OK, I like the Romulan Starbase.  Rommies are my favorite race, and I've been waiting for this.  I didn't play long enough to really see it in action, but I'm real curious to play around with the cloak.  Does anyone know if the AI will use it?  I know it's an issue with the ships... If it does, it would add a whole new level to trying to take one down.... and I love a challange... bwahahahaha

Actually, I'd like to see everything have a cloak... even stuff like weapons platforms, labs, etc.... but I don't think it'd be workable, huh???  Still, it sort of makes sense...  Rommie's seemed to be able to cloak most anything.  Imagine jumping into a seemingly empty system, only to have a fully armed defence grid uncloak right in front of you... surprise!!!  Would have made for one hell of an episode... hehehe

Anyway, I've got the house to myself tonight, no way in hell I'm watching the Sorry State of the Union speech... lol... gonna go fire up a game, maybe pick a fight with the Borg on Vicious and see how long I can hold out... hehehe.

Well its just hard 2 read the info cards when i ck on things...the transparent part does not work for me that well, i would like 2 be able to see the info i need to see.

I fixed that in Diplomacy. Not hard to fix for Ent if you can edit a tga image. No I will not. We move forward not backward.

Very good work. One thing though, the edges will not be seen in the default view of 1024x768. Be sure to test your huds in that view. I think it will just cut it off but it also might squish it to fit. 

Don't forget to also do the info popups, there is a verticle and a horizontal. Also the files in the mod for that are DDS but please save as .TGA for when I get the files.

I think we can definitely use your talents. If you have a hotmail account PM me and I will allow you to edit a folder on the skydrive and you can upload to there. If not email should be good I just dont check it that often.

Ok i will try Diplomacy i was getting CTD so i was playing En.... As to the last part, why would i ask you 2 do anything?( but i see now perhaps i should not even ask for info) Don't act like we are all 9yr old kids...Anyway thanks for the INFO, funny how a little thing can change your view of something.

Hm.. I cant scroll to the right when playing as Dominion?  Played as Federation and Romulan and never had any issue with scrolling... trying to play as Dominion and I can only scroll to the left?? (no im not on the edge of the map) i have to literally zoom out all the way then zoom back in on whatever im trying to look at if its on the right side of the screen...

I change my picture set and now the scrolling to the right magically works again... interesting bug i suppose? I relaunched 3 times and same thing each time then this time i changed the picture and it works.. lol