I'm not sure if you're stating an opinion of how it should be, or are just incorrect on how it actually is. In neither GC1 nor GC2 is Interstellar Republic a prerequsite for voting in the UPC.

Stating a preference. I seem to recall that in GC1 (not sure about GC2), there was no UPC until someone invented Interstellar Republic, and then all of a sudden, the Terrans and everyone they had contact with were in on it. That contact was all that mattered, and that is what I disagree with. One time I was the only person in the UPC, the first vote came up as an indefinite limit to the number of starbase modules that could be added. I voted for the minimum amount, resigned from the UPC (so I was not affected by that resolution) and then went out making contact with everyone. A little shadow hand action made sure that any starbases that were well-developped got destroyed, and all of a sudden, I'm the only one in the galaxy that can create useful starbases.

anomoly bug: The "+2 DEFENSE" reward anomoly doesn't actually give your ship anything

Ah Citizen Proud Canadian! You are putting salt in my wound. Same goes with +1 WEAPONS. But if you mention this bug few times more we might bore game designers into fixing this one in next beta build. Something tells me that they do that if there are 10 or more complaints.


BTW How to use quoting? I pressed 'quote' button and in the message window I got quote - /quote string without anything between and when I submited text I got a thick line (thin rectangle?) above my text and that was it.

BTW How to use quoting? I pressed 'quote' button and in the message window I got quote - /quote string without anything between and when I submited text I got a thick line (thin rectangle?) above my text and that was it.

Quoting used to work. Now I see the same thing you do. I quoted you by selecting the text I wanted to quote, copying it to the clipboard, and then pasting it between the quote/endquote tags. The way it used to work was that it would automatically copy the selected text into the quote.

I hit a CTD while trying to submit my latest game to the metaverse. Sent the SmartException report and the endgamesave to gc2bugs. I was able to reload the game, try it again, and reproduce the crash.

bug?

Quarterly Reports: Top 1 Most Powerful Civs

This just isn't useful

bug

Custom race homeworld name is not used. The homeworld for a custom race is just the name of the star and the sequence number (ex: Ireland III)

bug

Some planets do not appear to get the full 8mt/wk from a Xeno Farming improvement. Some do (for a total of 11mt on a planet with just 1 Xeno Farming) but the others only get a total of 6mt/wk. Strange.

on #119 and #121 (Trade):
Popup Target, what I meant was that the message lists the lower limit of the trading, and not the average. I assume that the program could easily calculate the average, and report that. IMO, it is more useful to know that in the end your average income from a trade route (base, without trade modifiers) is 60, and that you start out with a small fraction of that (8)... I do recognize that from GC1, but that had the same reporting problem....
I would much prefer to see the 60 average being reported that the 8 initial value.

Tourism....
I've posted a question on how tourism works in the general forum, but I think it's a bug that upon reloading a game tourism starts out at ZERO again... Something missing in the save game info ?
Unless tourism is based on influence, and is recalculated (like influence) over a number of turns.

On a close to evenly balanced budget, with an almost empty treasury, it does make the difference between going into debt or staying in the black (green) on a reload.

Is it normal that we cannot build the same ships/modules as standard ship like colony?

I use a cargo hull and put the same modules on that are also on the colony but i don't have the same amount
of room, the colony is 42 ( Cargo Hull, sensors, hyperdrive, basic support x 3 and colony module) but when i try to build
the same myself it is way over 55 and modules do not all fit on this hull.

Colony ships don't have sensors on them, the sensor range they have comes with the basic hull. In other words, every ship has a sensor range of 2 plus what range they get from installed modules. I know that I can build a colony ship that is equal to the starting colony ship in every way but with longer range and cheaper to build with no techs other than my normal starting techs and the ion drive, so I suspect that this is something you're not doing right.

Cargo Hull: 40

Colony Module: 25
Hyperdrive engine: 10?
Basic life support: 5x3

That adds up for me, though I'm not certain about the size of the hyperdrive engine on a cargo hull.

Oops, that was Cargo Hull: 50, so it would have added up, except that the basic hyperdrive engine is 13 spaces, so it totals out to 53. Not a major infraction since what I built would have a range of 1.1 instead of 0.9, but the cost is also off. Also, the sensor range of a colony ship is 3 rather than 2, though I have no clue why.

O.K., I've got the game up. without the ion engine tech, this is as close as we can come:

Cargo Hull: 50 spaces, 60 cost
Colony Module: 25 spaces, 25 cost
Hyperdrive engine: 13 spaces, 30 cost
Basic life support x2: 10 spaces, 20 cost

So far, that gives us all the stats of the default colony ship, except that the range is only 0.8 instead of 0.9 and the sensor range is 2 instead of 3. We've got 2 spaces and 20 BC cost to make up the difference, and that isn't going to happen. The cost is right (this design comes up at 135, and it would cost 20BC for a sensors module and another basic life support module), but that would make the ship 7 spaces too big AND would give the ship a longer range than the default colony ship has, so it's obvious that it isn't just a matter of too much stuff in the ship.

note to self: read the 5 previous posts


just a bug:

when colonizing two planets on the same turn:

first planet is pq26 with a research tile (whoah! gotta rename this planet!!) -> click 'details' ->

second planet is a pq9 with a mining tile. (what happened to renaming???!?!?)


i'm sure you've all realized by now that the sequence after new turn is haphazard at this point.

Oops, that was Cargo Hull: 50, so it would have added up, except that the basic hyperdrive engine is 13 spaces, so it totals out to 53. Not a major infraction since what I built would have a range of 1.1 instead of 0.9, but the cost is also off. Also, the sensor range of a colony ship is 3 rather than 2, though I have no clue why. O.K., I've got the game up. without the ion engine tech, this is as close as we can come: Cargo Hull: 50 spaces, 60 cost Colony Module: 25 spaces, 25 cost Hyperdrive engine: 13 spaces, 30 cost Basic life support x2: 10 spaces, 20 cost So far, that gives us all the stats of the default colony ship, except that the range is only 0.8 instead of 0.9 and the sensor range is 2 instead of 3. We've got 2 spaces and 20 BC cost to make up the difference, and that isn't going to happen. The cost is right (this design comes up at 135, and it would cost 20BC for a sensors module and another basic life support module), but that would make the ship 7 spaces too big AND would give the ship a longer range than the default colony ship has, so it's obvious that it isn't just a matter of too much stuff in the ship.

It just does not add up...

Yes we can get close but my point is we should be able to duplicate exactly what is on the colony ship using the tech we start with. Check by upgrading the colony ship what is on there and try to match this with the same tech that is on the colony by building a new colony from scratch.

Maybe this is done on purpose as it would be very easy to build a super colony ship and use this to outclass the AI and get all the good worlds from the start

It would be preferable to be able to create the exact ship, but as I pointed out, what we can build isn't that far off from what they're providing. 20 BC cheaper, but short 1 point of range and one point of sensors.

Just looked at the GC2Ships.xml file. The basic Colony Ship is defined as I spec'ed, with those two modules. Don't know why they put sensors on a base colony ship. This I would say is in need of two bug fixes and one tweak. The first bug fix is for a bug I've already reported: When using ships from previously saved games, it does *NOT* check to make sure you have sufficient minaturization to use the ship, so you can build ships that you can't design, even if you were the one that designed them.

Second bug fix (unreported, but I'll repeat it in a second post so that it doesn't get lost): The basic colony ship has three basic life support modules, which combined with the base range of 0.1 should give you a base range of 1.0, not 0.9 like the pre-designed colony ship, nor the 1.1 that you would get if you built the ship yourself.

Tweak: Get rid of the sensors on the colony ship, and either do something so that you can fit all three basic life support modules on the colony ship, or change something so that you only need two of them.

Devs: Just repeating a bug I found and mentioned in the previous post, since it would be easy to overlook:

Range isn't being computed properly for ships: The default Colony Ship, possibly others (haven't checked) don't get their 0.1 from the basic hull (so 3 basic life support units, which should *ADD* 0.9 to the range result in a range of 0.9 instead of 1.0), and player-designed ships get an extra 0.1 of range when they add their first range module (specific, confirmed case, a player designed Colony Ship with 3 basic life support units again should have a range of 1.0, but ends up with 1.1).

I was playing with the domestic policy panel (hot key 4), when I found the following:
- in the stats page, not all your abilities are listed. For example
- in the stats page, when I clicked abilities/economy/Military/misc or society, some violet lines (I am playing Thalan) are become balck and can't b de distinguished from the rest of the panel. Very annoying to cycle through the various abilities.

Will there be one more public beta release after .78 ???

Will there be one more public beta release after .78 ???

I think one more public beta coming today (thursday)

Anyone noticed the Arcean Empire Constructor has a speed of 6 while the rest of their ships seem to be standard, is this normal?

Also it is possible to remove ships from the Arcean Empire Fleet while playing as Human.

I posted this a couple days ago, but cannot find it on the site, so will again here...

There's a bug in the sector sweep command...my scout went over an anomally, and was teleported outside my area of space...could not move the ship manually because I was too far away...put the scout on sector sweep, and it moved all the way back to my area of space...

Does anyone know where to downlaod 4d? I don't see it at Stardock.

Sabre21

Since beta 4d is out, this will be my last report on 4c (I hope).

The UPC voted to allow 4 more trade routes for each race. Two turns later my freighter reached Drengi, and I was advised that I had exceeded my maximum allowed trade routes - since I only had 7 trade routes at the time, and the UPC vote should have given me 10 or 11 (depending on the max limit), it appears that the UPC vote was ignored in deciding whether my new trade route should be allowed.

Sabre21, for some reason I couldn't find it either, despite refreshing, checking for updated apps, even rebooting. Then I switched my server from Chicago to California, and there it was. I don't know if it's a server issue (didn't go on the chicago server as soon), or if it was a StarDock Central issue (not seeing the updated app until I switched servers).