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8 Questions for Gays/Lesbians,etc...

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8 Questions for Gays/Lesbians,etc...

from JoeUser Forums
These are some questions for all peoples here at JU that prefer the same sex. Its to try and understand, from your words/point of view. As i have been chastisized for some harsh comments.


1. At what age did you determine your sexual preference?

2. How did this come about?

3. How long did it take you to "come out" after your Revelation?

4. How did your friends and family react?

5. Do you feel that homosexuals are legitimately/illegally persecuted in the U.S.?

6. Have you experienced persecution?

7. Do you feel that the attitude of the country is shifting (or will shift with time) in your favor?

8. How do you feel when you hear some Christians tell you homosexuality is wrong and is a sin?
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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top
I would have thought the use of etc. actually served a very important purpose. Firstly, to include the bisexual label, but also to allow anyone who might not use the 3 most commonly used labels, but might see things from a more postmodernist perspective for instance. If gender is a social construct, then "heterosexual", "homosexual" and "bisexual" loses its meaning. Yet these people might still be attracted to people described by modernists as "male" or "female".

It's good to see you're getting heaps of genuine responses and that everyone's talking about the issue you raised. Gotta love JU!
Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hey Lucas...

1. At what age did you determine your sexual preference?


Firstly I dont think I determined my sexual preference, I was born this way.. so when did I realise it?... Well when I was 7.

2. How did this come about?


I just knew I was different I wasnt attracted to girls and I got boners thinking about guys.

3. How long did it take you to "come out" after your Revelation?


Come out.. hmm well the only people I never really came out to was my parents .. until they found out.
4. How did your friends and family react?


friends didnt care.. I was still me.. family most have been good about it, parents well they tend to dismiss it.

5. Do you feel that homosexuals are legitimately/illegally persecuted in the U.S.?


Dunno I dont live there... and I think I should refrain from saying anything about the US after recent happenings..



6. Have you experienced persecution?


Yes and I had their ass in court. (pardon the pun)



. Do you feel that the attitude of the country is shifting (or will shift with time) in your favor?


Depends which country your talking about.. here well things go backwards and forwards depending on whos in power. Overall I think things are much better now than in the past.


8. How do you feel when you hear some Christians tell you homosexuality is wrong and is a sin?


I tell them to get a life. So is eating oysters.
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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top
BTW..lucas I dont think your gay.
Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top
I have been to gay weddings, and they were beautiful events, wherein two people who love eachother committed their lives to eachother. what the fuck is so wrong with that? Nothing


I agree.

The people that I was going to adopt Beau from are a same sex couple. They've been together 25 years...if anything they're more committed than some traditional couples.

I could care less what someone's sexual preference is.

Lucas, I don't think that you're gay either. I think that you're doing what every normal boy your age does...you're questioning your own sexuality and trying to figure out where you fit in on the grand scale of things.
Nothing wrong with that.
Reply #30 from JoeUser Forums Top

go away "dr." bailey

we're laughing at you

That deserves a troll or two......why go to *his* blog if you don't want to read what he writes?

 

Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hey Karma, as long as you're reading this thread, tell me what is so acceptable in your mind about whip's dispicable behavior here. I'd really like to know. To pounce on myrrander is..... well....... I dunno. You tell me.
Reply #32 from JoeUser Forums Top
I found your original response condescening, rude, and paranoid dabe, and I was well within the ToU when I told you as much. Get over it already.


Frankly, I don't give a rat's ass what you think, particularly given that my comment was directed at bailey. He has been civil and communicative and nice. Unlike you, and your sorry ass attitude.
Reply #33 from JoeUser Forums Top
Because she's a nasty little bigot who thinks all republicans (ie:repukes) hate and despise gay people.


And, of course this is completely contrary to what I wrote. You just make it up as you go along, comfortably resting your bad attitude on the line of what Karma apparently deems acceptable under the tos. You go from thread to thread not commenting on the original post, but just bashing me.

As you've probably noticed, I do not post in your crappola blog anymore. It's waste of my time. You, on the other hand, are blacklisted from mine for quite obvious reasons.

I ask Karma again, what is so acceptable about whip following me from thread to thread to thread, adding absolutely nothing to the dialog, but rather bashing my posts, lying her ass off, and trashing my integrity? I would really appreciate an explanation.

Bailey, I am sorry your post turned so ugly. I really am. Take it up with whip. Frankly, I think she's suffered brain damaged from too many beatings from hubby.
Reply #34 from JoeUser Forums Top
Your user point??????? What a joke. You are a whore.
Reply #35 from JoeUser Forums Top
I am always going to oppose you


Need I say more? Not the issue, but me. You're a whore.
Reply #36 from JoeUser Forums Top
:S *sighs* Oy.....

Lucas, I don't think that you're gay either. I think that you're doing what every normal boy your age does...you're questioning your own sexuality and trying to figure out where you fit in on the grand scale of things.


--Grand Scale....yeah, not even close to finding where i am...thought i was over here....but....

That deserves a troll or two......why go to *his* blog if you don't want to read what he writes?


--Dang trolls....guess i'll have to stick my dragon on them..... (A D&D joke btw)

Lucas, I am sorry for this mini-hijack, but somehow I don't think you'll mind, lol. After all, points are points, and it's kept your thread alive and well bumped all day!



--Ehh, lets just try to keep it insult free, as much as we can...and that goes for everyone else.....

--Thanks for answering the questions PB...
Reply #37 from JoeUser Forums Top

--Grand Scale....yeah, not even close to finding where i am...thought i was over here....but....

Well, you're only 18 and as yet you've had no sexual experiences.  I don't know if you've ever even been on a date (not that either of those are bad things).....so yeah, you're still trying to figure things out.  Don't feel bad, I'm twice your age (christ, that makes me feel old) and I'm still trying to figure out where I fit in the grand scheme of things too. 

I actually hope that I never figure things out; it's kind of fun finding new and interesting things out about not only myself but the world around me too.

Reply #38 from JoeUser Forums Top
--Dang trolls....guess i'll have to stick my dragon on them

I don't know a few beefed up trolls against a dragon? I know the THACO would suck, but the regen would be interesting, a few spellas and we got a party.

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Reply #39 from JoeUser Forums Top
I don't know a few beefed up trolls against a dragon? I know the THACO would suck, but the regen would be interesting, a few spellas and we got a party.


-Mmmm, troll...... I've learned one thing in playing Dungeons and Dragons for many years; "When being chased by a dragon, you don't have to out run the dragon, just outrun the slowest person, and trip him..." anywho...
its fun playing a half gold dragon/lycanthrope, at level 23, its fun...


Reply #40 from JoeUser Forums Top

I ask Karma again, what is so acceptable about whip following me from thread to thread to thread, adding absolutely nothing to the dialog, but rather bashing my posts, lying her ass off, and trashing my integrity?

Sure, I'll answer you right after you justify these two comments:

Your user point??????? What a joke. You are a whore.

Need I say more? Not the issue, but me. You're a whore.


Sorry, but all I can see is the pot calling the kettle black.  The only difference is that the kettle isn't asking for moderator intervention.

And, if you can't see why what Myrrander said was pure "trolling",  you're always going to have issues here. 

dabe, can you honestly say that you read LW's posts with a fresh eye?  Or, have you already decided to pick it apart and fight it because she is the author?  If she is always 100% in opposition with your views, wouldn't that mean that you always oppose her?    If so...then do you have an issue with "her" or her "views?"

Reply #41 from JoeUser Forums Top
Angela, you refuse to get it. First of all, you are not reading why I called whip a whore. Go back and read the entire dialog, including all the crappy names she called me, if you so desire, which obviously you could care less.

Obviously, you're going to back up whip no matter what she says. She's golden here at ju, no matter what, and you just give her license to behave like the abusive ass that she is. Period. So forget it. Like they say, "Why bother to teach the PIG to sing. It wastes my time and annoys the PIG.

Thanks for f****** nothing.
Reply #42 from JoeUser Forums Top
She's golden here at ju, no matter what, and you just give her license to behave like the abusive ass that she is.


That's not necessarily true. When she and I feel out and stayed fallen out for a number of months, she got confined to her own blog for a while.

I have respect for the both of you - you're passionate about your beliefs, Dabe; I respect that AND I agree with some of your viewpoints. LW is passionate about her beliefs too, and I respect her for that...and I also agree with her stance on certain things. I'm simply trying to make sure that no-one gets unfairly villified for things that they haven't done.

Karma's caught between a rock and a hard place - she's trying to be a fair moderator but people get pissed at her for doing that.
Reply #43 from JoeUser Forums Top
Weird to see that your article has turned into a fight between LW and Dabe.. anyway..

Dabe.. Im gay, my politics lean way left and yet me and LW really are good friends. Why? Because I respect LW for what she believes in and she has taught me alot from chatting with her and from what she has written... What you gotta do is seperate the views of the person from the person and understand why they might think the way they do. It's all about life experience and it is obvious that both of you have had totally different life experiences which have brought about the views you both have about life. You cannot hate someone because of their experiences in life, in fact you gotta love them for going through what they did in order that they learnt a few things about life that maybe you wont have to go through so you can learn from them. Make sense?

I respect both of you because both of you are passionate people which is what makes energy happen in the world..it also makes wars..but maybe from this you two can learn to make peace instead of perpetuating the ever increasing amount of tension that is going around the planet at the moment. It all starts at home..if we cant learn to get along with ourselves how can we get along with anyone else?

Lucas... you need to manage your forums a little more and direct where you want your comments to go.
Reply #44 from JoeUser Forums Top
Look Phoenixboi, I know you're gay. I also remember some rather disparaging remarks being made by lots of people here on JU. Posting their names is not necessary. You know who they are. So, when Bailey asked his 8 questions, I was surprised. All I did was wonder why, and is this a setup, given the hostility that seems to be so pervasive on JU.

Whipsy jumps on my case, stating, "in all your phoney compassion..." WTF???? Phoney compassion???!!!! Excuse me and WTF? She goes on, accusing me of being some kind of "self appointed superhero", but that is exactly what she was doing herself, being the saviour of gays cus hubby is bisexual, so whip obviously knows everything there is to know. I was not trying to save anyone from anything. I was asking Bailey his motives. Nothing whatfurkingever to do with whipsy. I told her to get a life, and stop bugging me.

The rest is there for all to read. I couldn't post squat without this self appointed b*tch jumping all over my case about my questions. And, to make matters worse, Dharma had the same questions as I, but Dharma doesn't get trashed. You see, it has nothing whatsoever to do about the questions I post to Bailey. It was exclusively whipsy doo's disdain for me.

I'm happy for you that you're buddies. But, for the life of me, I can only wonder why. Not that I really care. She's a hateful little crusty, who goes around like some holier than thou godknowsnothing. I do not remember which thread, but two days ago, I believe, I posted something on someone else's blog, to which, out of the blue, and for no goddamm reason she replies to me, "It must be so hard being you", or something like that. My response to her was, "WTF is wrong with you?

Fact is, whipsy turned this article into a fight between us. It seems so juvenile to say this, but she started it. I have gone out of my way to stay out of her way. I don't post on her blogs. The last one I did post to was her racist lil diatribe about black looters. Since then, nothing. I don't post on drmiler's blogs, or doggie's or a few others. Because I am trying to not deal with people who I really can't stand. It's not that I cannot stand them personally. I don't know them. I just have very little, if any patience for what they stand for (rightie racism, selfishness, bush loving jingoism, to name a few issues). It goes against every grain of my being.

So, I say this again. Whip, stay the freakin hell away from me. I don't start shit with you. There is absolutely no reason for you to come in like some kind of self appointed superhero to save JU from my replies. Phoenixboi, if you're asking me to give whisy a hug and love her for her life experiences, then all I gotta say is, get real. That ain't ever gonna happen. Karma, if you cannot see this all, then I don't know what else to say.
Reply #45 from JoeUser Forums Top
Am I to drop off of the Political forums altogether because you participate in them as well?


Well, that sure would be nice.

but, if you want to debate issues, fine. Stop these out of the blue insults and bullcrap, and we'll just endure eachother. Otherwise, we'll do this again. The ball is in your court.
Reply #46 from JoeUser Forums Top
I promise you that.


You promise?? you're pathological
Reply #47 from JoeUser Forums Top

Karma, if you cannot see this all, then I don't know what else to say.

The problem, dabe, is that you are only seeing it from your view point.  I find it ironic that you don't *EVER* answer the questions I ask you.  I have a feeling that you can't.  Your disdain for LW is so deep, that you can't admit that you disagree with everything she says and will fight her at every corner.

I did read this entire thread before my last post.  Have you ever tried to moderate?  Have you ever tried to be impartial?  It's obvious that you don't have a clue what that means.

Pure and simple: no, LW is not an innocent party, but neither are you.  You seem to be fine with dishing out the BS, but you can't take it.  I'm tired of you telling me that I'm not "helping" when you are right by the fire throwing gas on whenever you can.  If you are going to be a jerk to people, they will return the favor.

What do you want me to do?  If I were to confine LW, you'd be confined too.  If you are both guilty, which you are, then both would see the same fate- is that what you want?

If you're going to swear, just swear.  It's juvenile to to "censor" a word that everyone knows you meant.

If you have a problem with Admins trying to be as impartial as possible, then there is absolutely NOTHING that can be done.  Pack up your bags and go away, because it's not going to change.  Equal means equal, not better.  I know it's a hard concept, but try to grasp it.  There is no "golden child" of JU.  Quit being so paranoid. 

I feel like I did when I was discussing kids pushing each other on the playground with my 6 year old daughter last night:  "Well, love bug, if you push somebody on the playground and they push you back, you are both at fault.  Don't go running to the playground lady complaining if you're at fault too."  Amazingly, SHE can understand the concept.  I wish grown adults could.

Lucas... you need to manage your forums a little more and direct where you want your comments to go

He won't...he likes the points too much

Reply #48 from JoeUser Forums Top
Karma's caught between a rock and a hard place - she's trying to be a fair moderator but people get pissed at her for doing that.


--No need, they can get pissed at me.

Dabe, you're gone. For a while. Until i see you can deliver your opinion with out blowing your lid.

LW, same thing. For a while.

I'm not doing this cause i dislike either of you, i'm doing it cause i really don't need this on my threads. Ok?

If either of you have a bone to pick with me concerning this, email me: lucasbailey@fsmail.net

He won't...he likes the points too much


-What!? You m'am have insulted my honor...! (points schmoints, ve don need no schtinken points!)

I feel like I did when I was discussing kids pushing each other on the playground with my 6 year old daughter last night: "Well, love bug, if you push somebody on the playground and they push you back, you are both at fault. Don't go running to the playground lady complaining if you're at fault too." Amazingly, SHE can understand the concept. I wish grown adults could.


--Hmm, well, as the lyrics of a song i know go; " if wishes were horses and beggers would fly...." (or however it goes... :S )

"Make it a great day or not, the choice is yours..."


-luke