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RIP W7

You can still update to W10 for free

https://www.howtogeek.com/469859/rip-windows-7-were-going-to-miss-you/
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W7 ran its course from 2009 to 2020.

MS has notified that there will be no more support for W7, meaning its kernel will become vulnerable to attack:

"Security updates are essential to staying safe online, and Windows 10 is getting them while Windows 7 isn’t. Many flaws found in Windows 10 will also apply to Windows 7. Attackers will hear about them and can start attacking those vulnerable Windows 7 systems. As more time goes by, more unpatched, known flaws will exist in Windows 7 for exploiting. Hardware manufacturers are also supporting Windows 10 instead of Windows 7. This will only get truer after the end-of-support date. Even software companies will one day stop releasing new versions of their web browsers and other software for Windows 7." - How to Geek

Needless to say, drivers compatible to W7 will also not be updated by the various hardware and software companies.

Many aren't updating because their machines might be old. This is another error. W10 will run faster than W7 if the W10 requirements are met, and which aren't so different than the demands of W7.

True, the huge updates are a minus, but, they go hand in hand with security updates as well. Also, the updates have been getting smaller, perhaps because they involve enabling features present in prior downloads which sit quietly on your system until enough testing (supposedly) allows MS to "unmask" them.

The security, or lack thereof in W7, is well explained here: https://www.neowin.net/news/gchq-its-time-to-ditch-windows-7-if-you-want-to-stay-safe-online. GCHQ (Government Communications Headquarters), is an intelligence and security organisation responsible for providing signals intelligence and information assurance to the government and armed forces of the United Kingdom.

There's still a way to update to W10 for free: https://www.howtogeek.com/266072/you-can-still-get-windows-10-for-free-with-a-windows-7-8-or-8.1-key/

All in all, W7 is now an OS with a major liability, and you should migrate.

 

gHacks has a good take on W7's end of life: https://www.ghacks.net/2020/01/14/windows-7-support-ends-today-here-are-your-options/?_m=3n%2e0038%2e2414%2ehj0ao01hy5%2e2iur

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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top

Does anyone have an idea of what an ESU plan for Win7 Pro would cost?

Reply #27 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting Daiwa, reply 26

Does anyone have an idea of what an ESU plan for Win7 Pro would cost?

Best answer I found was from Mary Jo Foley, here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/how-much-will-staying-patched-on-windows-7-cost-you-heres-the-price-list/

 

But, as you can see, MS hasn't confirmed those prices at this point.

 

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Reply #28 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 25

Never had a problem with W10...

For you new users some useful tricks: 

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/11-best-hidden-windows-10-tricks-to-know-now-that-youve-upgraded-from-windows-7/?ftag=CAD3c77551&bhid=22934121128163694730898056497463
Nice link for new users, thanks, Doc.

 

Been on 10 since day one, so I already knew them all but 1.  Great info!

Reply #29 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 25

Never had a problem with W10...

For you new users some useful tricks: 

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/11-best-hidden-windows-10-tricks-to-know-now-that-youve-upgraded-from-windows-7/?ftag=CAD3c77551&bhid=22934121128163694730898056497463

 

Thanks Doc. :thumbsup:  

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Reply #30 from WinCustomize Forums Top

I wouldn't upgrade.I would do a fresh install however

Telemetry updates can be uninstalled if your afraid of spying on win 10 it can be done with win 7 as well.Websites show which updates to remove & may provide a script to automate. Which one of them does for win 7

As for not wanting to install win 10 coz of  "hearing " bad things. Well there's always dual boot until your fears are gone. That & installing classic shell. Creating backup images of win 7 before hand. Set compression to medium in settings.Free version of easeus 5.8 can be got from afterdawn.com (find link to older versions once there) . All versions after do not allow more compression unless you pay.

 

edit: they can prise my *coughs* :-"   version of win 7 Ult from my cold dead hands.

Reply #31 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Here I am on my old junk machine....getting past XP to 7 Ult 32bit [it's a Dell Dimension 1100 P4 with 768meg]...and got it to update to SP1....and was then about to update again to 10 [it's an experiment]....but came back to the machine to discover 183 updates ready to install...

This is now, not 'back when'...looks like MS is dragging its heels yet again re EOL....;p

Reply #32 from WinCustomize Forums Top

It's over a gig of updates...so this monster of a machine will probably take months to deal with them....;p

Reply #33 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day.....

10 hours later and it's 148 of 177.....

Dunno what happened to the other 6.

Couple more hours and it'll be done.....;p

Reply #34 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Waiting for someone or something to show you the way...

Reply #36 from Stardock Forums Top

The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older....

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Reply #37 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting sydneysiders, reply 35

Thanks for the info Doc....  :)  

Welcome, syd. 😁

Reply #39 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting Jafo, reply 36

The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older....
Ok Floyd.  Question.

 

Why not just install 10? Rather than start with xp, or 7, or what not?

 

Just curious. Maybe you're just playing around?

Reply #40 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Ok, finally made my migration, no longer have Win 7, and Win 8.1, just Win 10 now....sheesh! #:(  |-)  

Reply #41 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting RedneckDude, reply 39

Just curious. Maybe you're just playing around?

Quoting Jafo, reply 31

[it's an experiment]

Reply #42 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Yeah, obviously Jafo is into self torture...lol.

Reply #43 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting RedneckDude, reply 39


Quoting Jafo,
reply 36

The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older....

Ok Floyd.  Question.

 

Why not just install 10? Rather than start with xp, or 7, or what not?

 

Just curious. Maybe you're just playing around?

There's no 10 upgrade option from XP... so I went from there to 7 first..then the in-windows 'upgrade' to 10 .... no need to buy a 10.

Instead it's  $20 for 2gig of ram to fit 10's requirements....;)

Reply #44 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Of course....I also have a P111-500 which I suspect will not hack it when it comes to 10 ..... perhaps 'pushing the proverbial' ....;)

Reply #45 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Spent much of yesterday rebuilding a 'not the big beastie' machine and loaded Win 8.1 on it.  Today I downloaded Win 10 and installed over the top of Win 8.1.  When I checked in System, Win 10 was activated, so the free upgrade is still out there for those who still haven't moved over.  Thing is, I quite liked Win 8.1, but its lifespan is finite and I wanted to future-proof my machine before the free upgrade went 100% bye-bye. 

I still have my big beastie to rebuild but I'm awaiting a MSI X399 SLI Plus motherboard; two 500Gb M.2 SSDs; 64Gb of 3200Mhz RAM and some cabling stuff.  Hopefully it all arrives on Tuesday 28 Jan... can't wait to try out this AMD Ryzen X2920 Threadripper CPU.  A bloke I know has the same CPU and mobo as me, as well as an i9 9900K, and he reckons the Threadripper is by far the better of the two.

Reply #46 from WinCustomize Forums Top

If you bought discounted Pro licenses for 8.1/8 when it came out (I paid $35 AUD each) they do validate and install windows 10 Pro - tested literally 1 weeks ago.

Reply #47 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

I don't know why anyone would like windows 8.1 to my opinion it is worst than Vista. Strike 4 for windows on that one.

Reply #48 from WinCustomize Forums Top

My laptop still has 8.1 on it. Added 16gb of ram and an SSD never had one problem with it.

Reply #50 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting Skarny, reply 46

If you bought discounted Pro licenses for 8.1/8 when it came out (I paid $35 AUD each) they do validate and install windows 10 Pro - tested literally 1 weeks ago.

Yeah, it did that for me and it was a seamless transition.  However, MS did announce that updating to Win 10 from 7 or 8/8.1 would cease, and as far as I know, it did.  Thing is, MS came up with other ways to update for free. assistive technologies being one such scheme, and I have a feeling that these free updates using 7 and 8/8.1 product keys were quietly reintroduced to get more people onto 10.  I say quietly because I think MS didn't want to be seen as going back on the 'no longer free' statement.

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Quoting admiralWillyWilber, reply 47

I don't know why anyone would like windows 8.1 to my opinion it is worst than Vista. Strike 4 for windows on that one.

Not everyone's cup of tea, Win 8.1, but once I had Start8 and other Stardock stuff on it, I thought it was actually better than win 7.  It was definitely faster, and once I got rid of those confounded tiles, it looked better, too.  Apps and tiles belong on phones, not a PC.

And same as ALMonty.... never had a problem with it, which is more than I can say for 10.  In the early days, 10 was like an unruly child with attitude, though I must admit, it has much improved since then and behaves so much better.

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