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I think SSD is a joke...

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I think SSD is a joke...

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My old 500GB Western Digital has been showing signs of dying so I went out and got a 256GB Mushkin Source SSD. What a joke. I see no improved boot up speeds on Windows 7, nor any other improvements over my old drive. Boot times and app start up times are the same. I have made sure TRIM is enabled and the SSD checks out OK. Muskin offer no software to help with speed on the SSD. Thoughts? I'm confused...

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Reply #26 from Elemental Forums Top

And here is my other desktop system:

 

Mostly slower than my first.

Reply #27 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting BlackSmokeDMax, reply 18



Somewhere between you two, wonder if there is some tweaking I should do.
End of BlackSmokeDMax's quote

 

I just tried with both my 950 PRO and 960 EVO and the scores were cca 2260 for the 950 and 3911 for 960 - thus very similar to yours, so i guess things are fine on your side. Or, alternatively, we have both some tweaking to do :-D

Anyway, obviously Optane is currently probably the fastest thing you can get, faster than these Samsungs, at least in benchmarks, so its not unexpected it by decent amount faster. AFAIK its by decent amount more expensive, LOL.

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Reply #28 from Offworld Forums Top

i don't think so ssd are jokes, they are much better than external hard drives and traditional SATA, programs load faster in them and boot up time of ssd is also good.

Reply #29 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

This is just a single Samsung SSD for comparison.

 

And my other one:

Reply #30 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Hmmmmm. I just tested 2 different M2 cards and got much lower read speeds than you guys. Write speeds about even with Brad's. Wonder why mine are so slow?

Reply #32 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting fomoruto, reply 31

mSATA version of the Samsung EVO 860

Mixed results...
End of fomoruto's quote

Those are awful low scores for a Samsung 860 EVO. Is you BIOS set to use AHCI mode? If not don't change it because your system won't boot if you change it. You'd probably have to set it for AHCI mode and completely reinstalled your OS to fix the speeds.

Or, you don't have Rapid Mode turned on in Samsung Magician. :-)

Reply #33 from WinCustomize Forums Top

I just read that the M.2 sata cards are about as fast as an ssd, whereas the M.2 pcie cards are super fast. I'm guessing mine must be sata. I will find out.

 

 

Reply #34 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Rapid mode can be turned on in the Samsung control panel.

Rapid mode off

Rapid mode on

Reply #35 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

oK i HAVE A LAPTOP it is almost three years old I don't know what type of ssd I have how do I find out. if i have a rapid mode or not, and how do I find out if it is on?

Reply #36 from WinCustomize Forums Top

You can look in the Device Manager under Disk Drives.

Reply #37 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

How do I turn on Rapid mode on a Sandisk.

Reply #38 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Well, as far as I know, rapid mode translates to AHCI mode. It is set in BIOS, and if it is not on, you can't turn it on without a reinstall.  If you do, windows won't boot.

 

OOPS, I missed that Samsung has a rapid mode. I wasn't aware. What software is needed for that?

 

Reply #39 from Stardock Forums Top

Samsung Magician, not sure if its true for all Samsung SSD Model.

Thank you,

 

Basj,

Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #42 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Quoting ALMonty, reply 41

Sandisk SSD Dashboard

https://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/15108/~/sandisk-ssd-dashboard-support-information

I don't know if it has Rapid mode. Might be called something else.
End of ALMonty's quote

Thanks! Downloaded and installed. Does not appear (as far as I can tell) that there is a rapid mode setting. But then my SSDs have seemed lightning fast compared to my old hard drives.

Reply #43 from Stardock Forums Top

My M.2 is so early it's not supported by the Magician....;p

Reply #44 from Stardock Forums Top

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Reply #45 from Stardock.net Forums Top

Going to an SSD is probably the most day and night upgrade you can get on a PC if you have been using an HDD this entire time.

Reply #46 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Here's on my home machine.  Just updated to the latest firmware. 

 

Reply #47 from StarControl Forums Top

Crazy things for you to double check real quick "Sorry I skimmed and didn't read the full content of every reply"

 

To get the best performance out of your solid state especially boot performance I suggest the following items.

The basics:

  • Update and configure your Bios for the optimal settings... IE AHCI on for your SATA/SAS drives, unless they are being utilized by a hardware raid controller.
  • Update the Firmware on your drive(s)
  • Perform a fresh install of your OS if it's the boot drive with a major change in technology... IE going from SATA legacy to SATA AHCI or from SATA to NVMe PCIe connectivity
  • Install the latest drivers for your chipset and SATA/SAS/NVMe -- This is especially important to update your NVMe drivers if you're using a Samsung 950/960/970/etc with the driver pack from Samsung
  • Eliminate everything prior to Windows Boot Manager or <Insert OS Here> so it doesn't wait on other boot options to time out before booting
  • Ensure your system is setup to properly utilize the SSD with it's Garbage Collection tech and caching tweaks

For a typical 2.5" SATA/SAS connected drive

  • Ensure it's plugged into Port 0 with AHCI Enabled and Hotswap disabled unless it's within a hotswap bay
  • Perform a fresh install of your OS, preferably with the latest AHCI or raid controller drivers slipstreamed into your install media
  • Perform any recomended tweaks suggested by your SSD manufacturer for the OS & version of OS that you're currently on
  • Setup garbage collection "Not really an issue anymore after Windows 7"

For a Typical M.2 connected drive

For the most part it's the same as the above with two very vital BIOS configuration changes.  Set them to the specific config of your purchased Solid State Drive and don't rely on "Auto" for either.

  • Number of assigned PCIe lanes allocated to it
  • Operation mode of the SSD
Reply #48 from WinCustomize Forums Top

I guess it's cryin time for me......

 

Can't understand why an M.2 card wouldn't be supported.

 

Reply #49 from StarControl Forums Top

Crazy question, what's the part number of your SSD?  A quick google search brings up Enterprise class solid states which could be the issue as the consumer version of Samsung Magician may not have support for Enterprise class drives.

 

 

Reply #50 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Not sure on part number. I bought it used, no packaging.

 

From Newegg specs.

 

Samsumg MZ1LV960HCJH 960GB PCI Express Gen3 x4 M.2 Enterprise SSD            

 

  • 1.3DWPD; M.2 Form Factor
  • 960GB NVMe PCIe Gen 3.0 x4
  • Supplies 32 Gb/s of bandwidth
  • Enterprise-grade power loss protection

 

 

Hard Drive SSD 960GB NVMe Protocol, PCI Express 3.0 x4, internal - 1.3DWPD, M.2 Form Factor, VNAND, Up to 1,000MB/s Sequential Read (128KB), Up to 870MB/s Sequential Write (128KB), Up to 240K IOPS Random Read IOPS (4KB), Up to 19K IOPS Random Write IOPS (4KB) - PM953 Series

 

Here is what Samsung Magician says.