One name: Jerimiah Wright

All you had to do was look there to see what Obama is really like. You don't go to a church for 20 some years without believing in the message that's being delivered and the methods thereof.

The American people shook that one off like it was nothing. Didn't want to hear it.

 

heh.. yeah, let me roll over.. they'd like that wouldn't they

 

 

Amen

 

Better watch it, I might end up on ...... the list

 

 

Yeah. Time to accept that the Election is over. Accept the results, for they are fact. Period.

OH, MY GOD! somebody actually believes what beck, the entertainer/liar, says? read, people! the man admits he makes shit up and reports it as true.

The election may be over but the REAL man, the one nobody cared to accept as real,  is in power now. That makes it all the more dangerous.

Beck... he's an idiot drama queen.

If you're a ruthless politician, you sit through whatever you have to, in order to procure the illusion that you care about something, so that those who truly DO care, think you care, too.  Sometimes, if you want your significant other to think you care, or that you agree with her religious views, you do whatever SHE wants you to, also, because as the bumper sticker says, "If Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy."

I sat through MORE than 20 years of church messages, (was even married to a pastor for 17 years) and today I'm a hard core atheist.  There was a period of about 12 years I would have put myself up for martyrdom for my faith, too -- I wasn't a luke warm Christian during those years; I was a true believer, I home-schooled my children, took part in abortion protests, stocked up on food in case "the evil liberals" came to put me in re-education camps, so I could hide from them in my basement....there sometimes comes a time when a person finds some flaws in the message they've heard for so long -- an epiphany, if you will, where a little bit of doubt takes root, and it doesn't necessarily have to come at the hands of any particular messenger.

I personally think Obama attended the church of Rev. Wright for purely political purposes.  And when the message went contrary to those purposes...so did Obama's membership.

Ahhh...and Phoon knows 'the real man'. LOL. All you, and everyone else knows is what's fed to you. If you don't have first hand knowledge (i.e. good buddies, play b ball together, etc.), don't present what you think you know as fact. It isn't. It's just one more opinion.

As for Beck? I agree.

 

Whos ratings are smoking everyone elses.  (feel free to throw in the "he's the one thats smoking' jabs)

 

 

Same message, 20 years, nothing changed other than he was exposed.. then.. and only then did he leave.

Man...I can't believe people actually continue to think the president of this country runs anything. He's just a puppet for the real ones running this country and the rest of the world for that matter (Uh oh! Tinfoil hat moment! )...mainly the owner/operators of the private non-government entity known as the Federal Reserve. You know...the ones every PAYtriot bends over for every April like good little subservient's to pay towards the ever increasing and impossible to repay interest (which they do not owe) on the money (created out of thin air) borrowed at your expense (kind of like credit card theft)...and every generation to follow...that you will never benefit from for ever increasingly ridiculous out of control government spending.

There are worse things to be concerned about than healthcare. Besides...you really didn't think anything of any real worth would ever pass did you? They do this to everyone every election year (make lofty promises) and everyone always fall for it. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

I apologize for sticking that health care thing in, but it illustrates the nature of the Obama/Democrat administration. It isn't optional (the health plan). It's purpose is coercive; to change the workplace, the schools, and your personal life. If eating potato chips makes you fat, then you'll have to stop. Just imagine them coming into your residence, weighing the whole family, and telling you what you have to do in the name of health care.

It would be a mistake to not fight against the intrusion. The Cash For Clunkers invasion into computers is only one example (as far as I know, that agreement was removed a while ago because so many people complained, by the way); this health bit is just another example of their style. The White House also had a snitch program for people to report to them what they called "misinformation" about the health care plans. Some people ended up getting e-mails from Obama-supported organizations for no apparent reason. They have since cancelled that, as well.

The price of health insurance would drop if the government didn't make it illegal for companies to offer insurance across state lines.

Doc, do you really think it's wise to just sit back and let them do whatever they want? People who were opposed to George Bush didn't remain the least bit silent just because he won the election.

Guess that proves he's factual, accurate, incisive and intellectual. So like his audience in it's discerning taste. 

"Glenn Beck is one of America's leading radio and television personalities. His quick wit, candid opinions and engaging personality have made The Glenn Beck Program the third highest rated radio program in America and Glenn Beck, one of the most successful new shows on the Fox News Channel. His unique blend of modern-day storytelling and insightful views on current events allowed him to achieve the extraordinary feat of having #1 New York Times bestsellers in both fiction and non-fiction. Beck is also the star of a live stage show, the publisher of Fusion magazine and the editor of GlennBeck.com." - http://www.glennbeck.com/content/program/about/

Oh yeah...I overlooked 'modest' also. 

television is a circus freakshow created by large private businesses to perpetuate fear into the large majority of uneducated/unquestioning people.

the video itself is not scary(its bullshit), but the thought of how many people blindly accepting what they have stated as truth, is.

I won't disagree with you about that -- but "true believers" don't jump ship when their teacher is exposed -- true believers stand by their heros, through thick and thin, and are willing to be burned at the stake for their faith.  If the man was willing to jump ship when his teacher was exposed, then the man was never a true believer.  I really don't want to have to give a dissertation on the parable of the sower at this point in my life. (And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness; And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended) 

Yes, I AM saying Barach Obama was a poser.

I'm right........no I'm right..........no you're wrong...........no you're wrong.  -sigh- 

Capt, as I said before, there is no sign of intelligent life on this planet.

EDIT: I apoligize, that was just silly of me to do that.

Statistically, the higher a person's IQ, the more likely they are to experience depression.  Maybe intelligence is overrated?

I wonder if that is the reason why I am always smiling? Hmmmmm.

A boiled down version of the truth.

The gov't doesn't matter a damn. After all, F.D.R. declared the country bankrupt on 2/12/1932. Since then, The Bankers have ruled the roost. Look it up. http://www.losthorizons.com.

"Healthcare Reform". Nonsense. Healthcare doesn't need reform. Health Insurance most certainly does, and the parasite lawyers that live around it.

The REAL issue is that we are an employer based system. As long as that remains so, healthcare is an open checkbook. That is what happens to be true and what happens to be the core of the issue. Don't believe me. Look up what the latest Nobel Prize winner in Economics (Paul Krugman) has to say about it HERE, and HERE. No simple solution, but start at least to understand it ain't about Granny and the plug. That's the Insurance Co.'s and their paid politician stooges talking.

vStyler you are almost as bad as Starkers. Obama is trying to fix health care so people like me can see a Doctor. Fixing it now would be cheaper than later. What is the big deal? Why is everyone afraid of reform?

All you are doing by fighting reform is screwing people like me...

^ Absolutely the truth. The reason for all the Republican opposition as that 1) they want to "break" Obama and 2) they were all bought and paid for during the fabulous Bush administration.

The government doesn't do anything right.  Why anyone would want them running healthcare is beyond me.

Here is a good article to read.

http://draginol.joeuser.com/article/361757/Health_Care_Debate_1_Understanding_Insurance

I'm going to have to say that DrJBHL just might have more insight and a better feel for the Health Care issues/problems.

Sometimes when I look at issues like this I tend to wonder what the 'landscape' would look like if the money flow only had to go from the patient to the Doctor.  Yes I do understand that the cost of major medical procedures makes necessary the need for Medical Insurance.  But I still wonder. 

No he's not....as usual he made the same lofty promises all politicians do and he's doing his best to appear to be fullfilling them.

Kona...if you are truly ill....walk into an emergency room and start the process thats already in place. Emergency rooms cannot turn you away...and after you go there enough times they will apply for medicare for you...then you will have it for 6 months and can at least go to a clinic.

In case you haven't noticed...you've been getting screwed ever since you were born by the same people claiming to want to help you.

How come Canada doesn't have anything like Fox News to laugh at?

I don't know if that makes us allies or enemies.  I like free speech, but it's just a tool, not an action.  I think banning guns or knives or karate or whatever is generally foolish and a hallmark of an oppressive society, but I would not espouse protecting murderers who abuse weapons.  Similarly, I think free-speech advocates should not blindly defend scum like Beck who abuse free speech, spreading fear and lies for personal gain.

No, Spencer: HERE. And the "Why they want to run Health Care..." is another Canard. They already do. Medicare and Medicaid. Yes?

And the overwhelming majority of Seniors are very well pleased with their care.

While I like you and Brad, I have to say that Paul Krugman's thoughts as a Nobel Prize winner in Economics carry more weight.

LINK.

 

Well, Sabercherry, that's Advanced Democracy. It ain't easy course work. If you hold the Constitution and the First  Amendment dear, you are obliged to do so for everyone...not just the ones you like.