No, but it looks like the family is handling the situation just fine.    She didn't abort Trig when she learned he had Down Syndrome and was there to help when Bristol told her family she was pregnant.   So far, in the family values department, Sarah Palin is 2 and 0 and counting.

Double Posts are not a family value! ;~D

fine

Well Sorry I called Id on his bullpoop

Ah, a deliciously ambiguous term.  All families have different values...so what the hell does this term actually mean?  It can be interpreted in a variety of contexts.

Ah, but that's why I prefer to stay out of politics...too much bullshit on either side and not enough shovels in the world to deal with it.

~Zoo

I would think by now when people use terms like "liberals" and "conservatives", that others would have enough sense to realize one is not talking about every single person in that category. 

This was about the liberals who have done nothing but attack Palins family and daughter for no reason other than their own satisfaction.  She must be doing something right then.

If you are so offended about what I said, take it up with the liberals who are attacking her.

Not aborting a child with Down syndrome and being there for your pregnant daughter are family values I do respect.

Why?  YOu just PROVED my point with your canibalism?  Jesus man, go vegan!

No, what the parents do = Family Values. 

I find it hilarious that liberals are now arguing children are Stepford!  When they have tried their damnedest to usurp parent authority in virtually all matters (It takes a village idiot).

Perhaps if liberals realize all they are doing is picking on children, they will stop this stupidity.  But then intelligence was never a requirement for liberalism.

Murdering babies = liberals family values?

That truth hurts, that's all I have to say.

And I would agree. 

However, the umbrella term "family values" irks me a bit because you actually have to spell out what values one is talking about.  Values can be good or bad and families are as diverse as can be.  Sure it sounds good, but there's no real meaning without further explanation.  I just hate how people run on a platform of "family values" and somehow that seems acceptable...but maybe I'm just being anal about the English language again.  I prefer all the details spread out before I know exactly what I'm getting into.

~Zoo

Getting pregnant from rape and not having a choice = human rights?

Women not having a choice what to do with their bodies = equality?

All I'm saying is a lot of conservatives prefer abstinence and not teaching about contraceptives. Now assumeing this was an unplanned pregnancy, which since it's out of wedlock I assume it is, maybe Sarah Palin and other conservatives should reconsider their stance on contraceptives.

Not to say that this baby will be a 'mistake' or anything of the sort, but it would make the childs life ALOT easier since wether we like it or not, her personal life will be thrusted out into the public eye since her mother is now on the ticket for VP.

Can you ingest cocaine into your body?  Why not?  It is your body.  Is that equality?

bad logic does not make good arguments.

All I know is, the savaging of Sarah Palin and her family has just begun.  There is no way the sexists in NOW, the incompetent press and the far left are going to allow a conservative Republican to be the first Woman VP.   They are going to pull out all the stops in the sleaze department to make sure that doesn't happen.

In the end though, whether Palin becomes VP or not, NOW, the incompent press and the far left are going to have exposed themselves for who they are.  They don't give a flying flip about women's rights at all.  They care about furthering leftists.   That is ok of course, I mean, they are free to work towards getting leftists elected, but the lie of "women's rights" will be laid bare.

Actually, it already has, but those whose religion is abortion won't admit it to save their lives.

If ANYONE really wants to ingest cocaine into their body, they can. That's equality. I'm sure its pretty easy to come by. I'm actually anti-war-on-drugs so I'm not sure if thats the best example for me to try to counter, IMO if someone really wants to do that to themselves and ruin their lives, we shouldn't waste money housing and feeding them in jail. If they turn violent, as does occur, then yes throw them in jail.

But either way when I say equality, I mean equal between all races, sexes, and people. Cocaine is illegal for all people, so yes that is equality. Men do not have restrictions as to what they can or cannot do to their body.

And just so everyone knows, I'm not a "liberal" or a "conservative". I do not associate myself with a title like such. I hold ideals that are a mix of both Democratic and Republican ideals. If Ron Paul was on the ballet for the republicans, I would vote for him. If there was a more traditional republic on the ballot, I could see myself voting for them. What I can't vote for though is a pro-war, anti-individual liberty canidate (Patriot Act). Just wanted to let that out for people who want to call me a "liberal" like its a bad word. I analyze both canidates and choose the one I agree with on the big issues.

Yet another similarity between abortion on demand and legal Black slavery.  The idea that one person can own another.  Equality is, neither men nor woman can kill a fetus.  Your own example shows the inequality of the "pro choice" argument.

Silly person, married men cannot have a vasectomy without signed permission from their spouse.

My example could be spun either way then depending on when you believe life begins. Excellent example though.

By the way anyone watching the Ron Paul convention on CSPAN-2?

You know why Because it can think

It has blood flowing through its body and a working circulatiory system

It can breathe

I only think abortion during the first quater of pregnancy when some of these things dont work

ANd its not like the mothers take it lightly

Not LEGALLY!  Before Roe v Wade, ANYONE could get an abortion too.  Just not always LEGALLY.  Again your logic is critically flawed.  What right to privacy (your body) do you have?  Can you legally commit suicide?  No. Can you sell your organs?  No.  Can you put Cocaine, Heroine, LSD, Meth, etc into it legally?  No.  So what can you do with your body legally?  Not a whole hell of a lot.

So where is the equality?  The ONLY right to privacy with A body has been bestowed on women, none on men.  Name one!

Your logic is flawed, and your arguement worse.

Post partum.  Learn it, live it.

Which is particularly sad. I am by no means a fan of drugs, but if someone wants to use and abuse them, go for it. Survival of the smartest, lol. Seriously though, it's sad that when it comes to taking care of ourselves - there's government regulation. You'd think we don't know what is best for us...

*bristles* Ugh, and again I make the statement - just because A liberal makes an ignorant and stupid remark, doesn't mean we're all that way. Politics...love it yet hate it.

~L

You say that you can't legally commit suicide, but what is the punishment for someone who does? Death? So tell me why it's illegal, what is the point of a law making suicide illegal?

Let's say abortions were made illegal, what would the punishment be for someone who got one, let's say unassisted. What would be the logical punishment be, would it be life in prison since you consider it murdering a fetus?