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Editorial.....

Editorial.....

Posted on Skinbase....but reposted here to provide food for thought for those who may not go there all that often...

hobnobber...yes, basically all that is correct, though a more accurate estimate of those who contribute via skins, purchases, community input/interaction vs. those who only 'leech' for freebies is very much more than the ratio of 25 to 1....perhaps more in the realm of 2500 to 1....and that's the rub.
When skinning was in its infancy, say 5 years ago, it was all new and thrilling to everyone....now it has grown, not so much with newer apps coming on the scene on a daily basis...that was the 'norm' back in skinz.org [mk.1] days, but now the growth is in general interest/popularity, thanks to Microsoft's added awareness of the concept, with its visual styles, etc.
What you get now is many more 'users' but not a heck of a lot new blood in skinning as skinners as such....certainly not a comparable ratio to the popularity growth.
When once the skinners and their 'community' sites could foot the bill for all, as the majority were like-minded skinners themselves, now it's more a case of 'us and them'...the providers of product vs. the users of the product.
The dynamics have changed.  With this change comes commercial pressures on everyone involved.
New specifics require new handling.....people need to cater for the changes with methodology that makes the situation survivable or else viability suffers and the reality of the system falls apart.

Change can be horrid and unpalatable but may just be absolutely necessary and unavoidable.

Anyone involved in the game for long enough can see the writing on the wall....even since the dot-com failings of the likes of eFront that killed the first REAL skinning community we have been striving for sustainability.
Anyone with genuine heart-felt feelings for the skinning community as a whole will realise the necessity to not put heads in the sand and blindly hope life will magically go on as normal, but make a conscious effort to find a sustainable model.
Sure, many will arrive at alternate theories of a working model, but until tried no-one will be sure what actually will succeed or not.
All that can be done is to try our collective best, hence many soul-searching threads on the subject of 'the future of skinning' in one form or another on many/most sites.

Poor old Devart has a massive user-base and being a graphics site demands high bandwidth/server load as does any skinning site at their relative levels.

I remember what the world was like before skinning....[my first foray was with Dos GUI shells - pre Windows...then Win 3x and beyond] and would hate to see the whole skinning world fall apart due to ennui or apathy, hence the hands-on involvement.

Let's all look forward to skinning/GUI modification still being not just 'fun', but sustainable in another 5 years, or 50...

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Reply #51 Top
No offense intended, but you came on Jafo's thread, called him a terrorist, and only after people started taking YOU to task started calling things 'obtuse'.

I think you can count on things remaining obtuse, no matter how many girly sighs and emotes you expel...


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Reply #52 Top
not to be obtuse or anything, but at least let your nogging take back control of your fingertips
Reply #53 Top
I think you can count on things remaining obtuse, no matter how many girly sighs and emotes you expel...


He he, especially when things come from jaFoOn, Feline (snif..snif.. what's that smell? meow)" Travis (Who was cool for a minute). and even more so from you FakerStreet (Rip off of Gerry Raferty). Come on man, really. Don't flatter yourself and think you can match wits with me son.

Again. Move on peeps!



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Reply #55 Top
No, I agree, upon comparison our wits would most certainly not match. If you're first thought upon seeing 'bakerstreet' was Gerry Rafferty, we aren't in the same realm of the esoteric.

Since, as I said, this isn't your thread, why don't you move on. You seem to be the least welcome, right?



Peon.

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Reply #56 Top
Why do all good threads go bad
Reply #57 Top
jaFoOn?? FakerStreet???
What are you, a Martin Lawrence wanna be? Next thing you'll be typing stuff such as 'Pam Malone' and 'Annita Faker'
Give it up, you are certainly not as clever as you want to portrait with your cheap shots at sarcasm come backs, but you are certainly a nice comic relief though', almost as funny as UzEE.
As for matching wits with you ‘son’, there isn’t really much to match.
Now be a nice little boy and go play with your Xmas toys.
Reply #58 Top
Why do all good threads go bad


Obviously because once in a while a little troll find his way thru the cracks of reason and common sense.
Reply #59 Top
Peon? Come on man...you can do better than that.

At least Aporkalips pulled out his dictionary for his retort and said...wait what was it he said...let me read up a sec...o yeah, I see now...he said...nothing.





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Reply #60 Top
He he, especially when things come from jaFoOn, Feline (snif..snif.. what's that smell? meow)" Travis (Who was cool for a minute). and even more so from you FakerStreet (Rip off of Gerry Raferty). Come on man, really. Don't flatter yourself and think you can match wits with me son.


Oh man! he left me out! I want to be made fun of! NOT!

Peon.


Didn't you mean to say "troll" baker?

Reply #61 Top
Pinthar - Come on man, really. Don't flatter yourself and think you can match wits with me son.


so, this is how you carry on an intelligent conversation? some things are just not worthy of comment.



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Reply #63 Top
At least Aporkalips


Thats Mr Aporkalips to you MY son. Always respect the hand that feeds you and will slap the *ish out of ya'

Where did you all dig this crum out of. He is really funny. I think we should keep it as pet
Reply #65 Top
Dont worry Kona, they are trying to vote you off the island over in IRC...


what do you mean? show me. link please?
Reply #66 Top
No one did DinDang... err... Pinthar, but then again, how in hell would you know what intelligence is?
Reply #67 Top
Chris » please please please vote kona off th island
[2:48am]« Games_Master » lol
[2:48am]« Chris » and now I'm reading Jafo's editorial thread with that weird guy attacking jafo
[2:49am]« Chris » it's like a circus


need I say more?



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Reply #68 Top
Kona, I think that was another one of his cheap shots at a 'strong' come back
Reply #69 Top
Ahhhh.... I see. Pinthar is one of those that take everything so literally
Reply #70 Top
Kona, I think that was another one of his cheap shots at a 'strong' come back


At least when the regulars pick on me it is worth reading.

Pinthar: You still failed to give me a link. So what if you are chatting about me?

I care not so why don't you go away and STFU!
Reply #71 Top
Pinthar - Pussycat...Who said you were intelligent?


the only claim i recall making in this thread was that i had been around this community long enough to understand and appreciate Jafo's original post.

intelligence or the lack there of, this is something that is being amply demonstrated without the need for any claims on my part.

Apocalypse_67 - Where did you all dig this crum out of. He is really funny. I think we should keep it as pet


just so long as you clean out the cage. after all, you are the one who wants the pet



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Reply #72 Top
On one condition. I get to beat the *ish out of him when he makes a mess.
Reply #73 Top
maybe this pinthar guy is UzEE...
Reply #74 Top
Nah, even UzEE has a little more brain cells
Reply #75 Top
yes, true. This guy is making me, the resident idiot, look like a admin.

troll.