Editorial.....

Posted on Skinbase....but reposted here to provide food for thought for those who may not go there all that often...

hobnobber...yes, basically all that is correct, though a more accurate estimate of those who contribute via skins, purchases, community input/interaction vs. those who only 'leech' for freebies is very much more than the ratio of 25 to 1....perhaps more in the realm of 2500 to 1....and that's the rub.
When skinning was in its infancy, say 5 years ago, it was all new and thrilling to everyone....now it has grown, not so much with newer apps coming on the scene on a daily basis...that was the 'norm' back in skinz.org [mk.1] days, but now the growth is in general interest/popularity, thanks to Microsoft's added awareness of the concept, with its visual styles, etc.
What you get now is many more 'users' but not a heck of a lot new blood in skinning as skinners as such....certainly not a comparable ratio to the popularity growth.
When once the skinners and their 'community' sites could foot the bill for all, as the majority were like-minded skinners themselves, now it's more a case of 'us and them'...the providers of product vs. the users of the product.
The dynamics have changed.  With this change comes commercial pressures on everyone involved.
New specifics require new handling.....people need to cater for the changes with methodology that makes the situation survivable or else viability suffers and the reality of the system falls apart.

Change can be horrid and unpalatable but may just be absolutely necessary and unavoidable.

Anyone involved in the game for long enough can see the writing on the wall....even since the dot-com failings of the likes of eFront that killed the first REAL skinning community we have been striving for sustainability.
Anyone with genuine heart-felt feelings for the skinning community as a whole will realise the necessity to not put heads in the sand and blindly hope life will magically go on as normal, but make a conscious effort to find a sustainable model.
Sure, many will arrive at alternate theories of a working model, but until tried no-one will be sure what actually will succeed or not.
All that can be done is to try our collective best, hence many soul-searching threads on the subject of 'the future of skinning' in one form or another on many/most sites.

Poor old Devart has a massive user-base and being a graphics site demands high bandwidth/server load as does any skinning site at their relative levels.

I remember what the world was like before skinning....[my first foray was with Dos GUI shells - pre Windows...then Win 3x and beyond] and would hate to see the whole skinning world fall apart due to ennui or apathy, hence the hands-on involvement.

Let's all look forward to skinning/GUI modification still being not just 'fun', but sustainable in another 5 years, or 50...

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Sorry....got a dose of the "Frogboy"s....bit wordy there...
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not that wordy, and it sounds like you are speaking from the heart

wise words well put.



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Probably needs a 'bump'...
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and another "bump"



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Huh! Whah..t? Lost me on that one.

But I guess your trying to say something like your bored and need to move on.



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probably more like, if you aren't intrested, just STFU... mery X-MAS btw
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Pinthar...it's written in English, which is the default language used here.  Most people will tend to follow it.  Those who don't are the non English speakers who would be naturally excused.

I can say it more slowly if you like...

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jaF0,

Excuse me?

Sounds like your whining a ramping is all part of your inability to deal with change. Life goes on jaF0, and so should you. The last I checked, this was an international community, so to say that non-English speaking "skinners" wont have a voice here and will be "excused" the same as saying that you are better than everone else, and dont have room for new ideas and an ethnically enhance community. Really? The world has moved on, but it seems that you are still stuck in the "infancy". Everyone gets a voice dude...(whether it be a "leach" or a "developer" or someone in between)... deal with it! I also got that same attitude from you when you closed my first thread without even the decency of at least moving it to the right forum, or informing me why. I'm not a punk dude, but your assumption leaves you arrogant. I guess your in the habit of everone kissing up to you, but wake up.

So if you, "the system", wont change your methodology and remain viable to new ideas and ethnic diversity, then perhaps your reign as the terrorist who mods this forum should come apart...and with that, you have my vote of inconfidence.

We can go round and round if you want, but really, isn't it pointless? I mean, lets move on and do something for everyone else, instead of this meanial mutual enmity we have.



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Everyone gets a voice dude...(whether it be a "leach" or a "developer" or someone in between)


but that doesn't mean someone is going to listen. I support jafo and consider your remarks to be totally uncalled for.
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/me envies Jafo being called a 'Dude'
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yrag you're a dude in my book
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Thanks...now I feel better...

....fire when ready Jafo..er..dude
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dude ... now that's funny!



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Reply #17 Top
...almost makes a person want to run out and grab a horse...doesn't it??
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i gotta put me on my boots and saddle up.
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For some reason I started thinking of that movie with Billy Crystal.



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when you closed my first thread without even the decency of at least moving it to the right forum, or informing me why. I'm not a punk dude, but your assumption leaves you arrogant. I guess your in the habit of everone kissing up to you, but wake up.


Excuse me, DUDe, but you were too cool to include your screen shot in with the rest of ours (common though we are) and started a whole new thread. WTF should he have to move it to compensate for your megalomania?

Everyone gets a voice dude...(


Hey, DUDe, you've even given a voice. All you have done with it is attack a good decent person. It's getting real old, DUDe. If you stopped to read, instead of TRYing to sound so frigging bright, you might start to understand what was actually said.

We can go round and round if you want, but really, isn't it pointless?


Yes, DUDe, this is pointless. You are not making sense.
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yee-haw ridem cowboy
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...I get a chubby everytime gm says "DUDe"



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Well, there goes another Jafo attack. It's sort of funny really. Poor guy, I almost feel sorry for him. It's funny that no one attacks KarmaGirl like this. Probably, because she is such a sweetheart.(Yeah, she picked me for the contest, but I felt that way before it.) Blame it on testosterone, I guess. lol.

Pinthar, you should find a way to make your peace with Jafo, I did and I'm a lot happier here. Everyone is different. We all need to live together in spite of our differences.

Try this. When you get angry, smell the roses, not the manure.
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Chas, she has been. Sooner or later all the people who are in any position of authority are bound to get attacked by some DUDe. It's an ego thing.

...yrag /me passes yrag a milk DUD.
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...now you're talkin'



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