Does that make sense? I'm tired

I like it...sleep tight

Night all. And thank you

I think the first thing that MUST be considered/done is to include links to the source of any and every image, etc used and intended as 'fan-art' to provide a formal record  to distinguish what is being claimed as original work and what is not.

An acceptable concept of 'fan-art' fair use is NOT the plagiarizing of one person's wall image of Donald Duck being re-distributed under another person's nick.

In an 'ideal' world, NO image would exist on the Internet UNLESS uploaded by the original copyright holder, or be present in modified form without accompanying permission/s from the original copyright holder.

Website admins are charged with an impossible task....which is largely disputed, if not just plain thankless, but generally the idea is to protect as well as is possible/workable.

It is the bane of our existence that such a concept of 'fair use' even exists, but such is life and we're all in it for the living...

I think that I can help clear this up. My son has a band and we have one of the biggest managers and biggest attorneys in the music/entertainment business. There is one word that starts drawing the line, "COMMERCIAL". Our songs are protected by the copyright laws just like art, however, once it's recorded and published it becomes public. Meaning we can't stop anyone from singing it or completely changing it or whatever as long as it is used personally. They can pretty much do what ever they want with it (even record it) as long as they don't use it "COMMERCIALLY" or mis-represent it. Commercial is also a broad term also and doesn't have to imply money.

It can mean advertising, promotion, marketing, etc... If they do, they first have to have permission and in the case of a situation that is non-profit for them, they have to negotiate a fee with us.

I think the confusion we have here and a real tough question to answer is this. Anyone can "Play" our music at a party or something but they can't duplicate it and give it away (although we don't care). Which I think is the issue here. We can actually use any art from anywhere for anything for ourselves but we can't re-distribute it. However, the reason we really don't see any real problems is because even though it's being used it's not being used in a commercial fashion.

It's one of those things that we can put Jafo in charge of monitoring and trying to keep the obvious ones out and for the others, when someone yells, you simply take action first and study later to determine if their request is justified.

I also uploaded a Bootskin that was rejected, I don't know why, but some that have got through are surely copyright protected, I won't mention any of them because I'm sure you can see for your self which ones they are

I would also assume that it also depends on the Mood of the Moderator at the time

It might be a good idea to ask an admin why it was rejected. If they think you used any images without permission and you didn't, then that is something you should get cleared up.

I'm not really that bother about it

And I know why admins do not send out rejection emails

It was made to please my nephews and they insisted I upload it Kids

Two words: "fair use".

#30, last sentence, yeah, i think that youre right *realizes why lots of walls and logons have been rejected* hahaha. no, j/k. yeah, even though we think that the moderators are bots that will do anything we ask, we gotta realize that theyre people with lives. (jafo)

There is a lot of case-by-case issues. For example, we know from experience that some companies make a lot of money out of selling promotional material, or selling the right to use their trademarks. These companies are quite strict about the illegal reproduction of thier own trademarks.  One example of this is sports teams. Ever wander why we have so little sports themes here? Because that is one major source of revenues for the NHL, NFL, etc.  The SELL the rights to use the teams logos, they don't give it away.

BTW: I know this first hand, by an email from a NHL lawyer.