Drengin and Snathi don't have space elevators or computer cores?

They start with (really strong) factories, unlike other civs which need to research them

Not glitch. They are Slavers and those slave related facilities replaced ordinary production facilities.

The reasoning is this:

slave camps provide their flat bonusses by increasing population (they get+pop form adjacencies!). Slave research is based on the +1 the native building has, which is not unique.

If you are still hurting for production, try asteroid mines . Just do it.

I don't think you guys get it.  It's as if we are playing a different game.

Those slave camps just give % boost.  You can fill your entire capital with them and get minimal benefit.  It's almost nothing.  Space elevators and cores give +1 adjacency bonus.  The production and science available to the Snathi and Drengin are soooo much lower it's unplayable.  

No space elevator.  No computer core.  No starport.  Those are all the +1 adjacency buildings.  Those buildings are really the only ones that matter.  Others are just minimal percentage bonuses.  Drengin and Snathi have NONE of the good stuff!   

Am I crazy?!

Woh, and I just figured out that the Yor can build their science core on ALL worlds.  Which is probably the way it should be for all the races.  

 

Yor can build core on all planets.

Terrans can build the core once.

And Drengin and Snathi don't even have it.  (why even bother with a science tree with these guys?! Only fun strategy is to do an "anvil rush" on a small map.  Synths do it better tho!)

 

If you want science and production (where you can get some actual adjacency bonuses), better play Yor.   

 

 

Yes - Work Camps once built after researching the 2nd "Colonization" Tree choice do currently increase population +1 per work camp and that +1 Population Cap bonus currently carries forward to the upgraded manufacturing bonus buildings for Slavers.  Currently that makes Slavers ramp up production relatively fast.  Note that prior to Crusade Population had a lesser role in influencing Raw Production for the planet than it does now.  That said I have asked if Work Camps should increase Food Income instead of Population so you don't get the increased Raw Production without the additional step of adding Cities to the planet.  Right now the Food Income for Colony Worlds without Farms is 4 Population giving a Slaver with 4 of more work camps a significant immediate Raw Production bonus and maybe this is okay but it has more drastic effect in Crusade it seems to me than it did before.  So perhaps you don't need the Space Elevator Building (colony unique that as of 2.14 adds +1 MaxManufacturing) for Slaver's if that Population Cap bonus stays.  Which similarly affects whether you get the Space Port (+1 Military Production) building for Slavers.  But work camp bonuses can't be built immediately.  Slavers as well as Non-Slavers can built the Deep Core Mine (Colony Unique not on the Homeworlds) building that adds +1 Social Manufacturing to the planet (perhaps this building should be restricted from slavers if they continue to get the +1 Population Cap from work camps).

Synthetics get a YorResourceExtractor colony unique building that adds +2 MaxManufacturing to its planet so surely they don't need all three of those buildings (Space Elevator, Space Port and Deep Core Mine).

Should Synthetics be restriction from building the  Deep Core Mine (Colony Unique not on the Homeworlds) building that adds +1 MaxManufacturing to the planet) ?? 

Asteroid Mining now costs 100 manufacturing instead of 500 before Crusade and adds +1 Raw Production to the associated Planet (although I think there is some distance effect to that bonus).  With a base of 4 Raw Production from population on any planet, Asteroid mines add a good bonus of production to any planet.

Also Yes - the Slaver Research Chambers (which should also be available only after Resource Exploration Tech is researched not available under Colonization) continue to have a +1 Research bonus per building that other Race's research buildings don't have as well as a Percentage Research bonus everyone has.  With Lower Research percentage bonuses (about one third of the old bonus values) this bonus is more significant in Crusade that it was before.  So perhaps you don't need a empire unique Computer Core building up front as a slaver but it does boost your initial research output.

Not sure how intentional this is but Synthetics can build immediately a YorMainframe building (+1 Research - planetary unique building) on all planets instead of getting a empire unique Computer Core building. 

Computer Core building is empire unique and can be built immediately to give +2 research to the planet and currently is not available to Slaves or Synthetics.

Carrying these restrictions forward - the Central Bank building (empire unique like Computer Core) can not be built currently by Slavers or Synthetics.  Not sure why since they have not direct replacement for this building which currently as of 2.13 gives 100% Gross Income bonus (was +2 gross income) to its associated planet.

Now Synthetics do get a Rare Metal Extractor that gives +25 % Gross Income but it is researched later with the Planetary Resource Mining Tech (ResourceProcessingTech) and seems to be a Racial unique building to help increase income for Synthetics whom don't get automatic increases to Raw Production or Gross Income from "natural" population growth.

 

Yeah, sorry, a non-unique +1 building is a hell of a lot better than a player unique one with a leveled flat bonus.  That Computer Core only gets you one decent planet, the rest are comparatively crap.  When you've got 5 planets, sure, that core with some high adjacency neighbors can be pretty sweet, but 20?  It falls into mediocrity pretty fast.

Thanks for the kind replies.  You seem to know more about things then I.  I am still not seeing where the production is "ramping up really fast".  

Work camp is giving me +5% construction, +1 morale, and +1 pop cap.   5% is nothing.  Instead of morale, is it meant to be production?  Why are slavers the happiest people in the universe? 

 

At least they do have a form of research that I didn't see before.   It takes like 20 turns to tech it though.  And once I get their, it says it's +1 maintenance which I can not afford anyway.  These guys are RIDICULOUSLY under powered.  I can not understand how this is defensible.

Most certainly intentional. Because Yor population does not grow. It makes up for it. Yor population has super high cap and good morale, building it up is hard at 100 manufacturing per popNo.
That would make the ability useless to silicates. It's a shame it is allready useless for synthetics. Besides, 40 popcap doesn't do you any good if you are still at 25 pop. Slave manufacturing should not be nerfed this way hastily. I think it has a pretty cood chance to work out.Hmm? The only early planet with that kind of stats is a synthetic homeworld, counting in the +25% production form morale. Colonies have a meager 2 at 4 pop until they get cities or whatever.