ZOC-related aggro is getting absurd

We are sick your harmless trade ships in our territory! Prepare for war!

So an AI retired and left me all their planets, but they (and all their defending ships) were all now in the Altarian AI's ZOC. Which means I went from respecting Altarian personal space to flagrantly waving my nuts in their faces in one turn. I thought the open borders treaty we signed had me covered, but it had quietly expired (WHY DO THESE EXPIRE?? AND WHY DONT THEY SAY SO WHEN THEY DO?). So they went from 'close' to 'furious' in one turn and declared war on the next.

Earlier in the game, I was sending a cargo ship to establish a trade route with Thalan planets and THAT made the Thalans decide I was basically Space-Hitler. Shouldn't trade ships or really any ship with no weapons be excluded from the ZOC AI trigger, open borders treaty or not?

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I must agree that it is REALLY silly for trade ships in another's ZOC to count against you.

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I think this can be looked at.  It was heavily heavily nerfed in 1.8 (i.e. it doesn't count nearly as much as it used to).

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Great thank you!

What about treaties expiring? Can that be turned off somewhere? Is there some logic to them having a set, unchangeable, expiration period and then not tell you when they expire?

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I need more than, "A treaty with XX has expired." I'd like to know a turn or two before what is expiring with whom.

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hehe, this thread is pretty funny. The Ai Declaring cause you sent trade ships! I agree non military ships should have zero bearing on threat with an ai. 

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Quoting Larsenex, reply 5

hehe, this thread is pretty funny. The Ai Declaring cause you sent trade ships! I agree non military ships should have zero bearing on threat with an ai. 
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I've had that happen a few times, at least once while I was paying them credits/turn