Hey KIRA!

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Kira,

We could handle this by pm, but I figured a forum post might be good for folks that are interested and have been competiting in the recent tournaments.  Please respond here when you get a chance.

I noticed that we have 3 options on the jee site for creating the structure of tournaments:  random bracket generated at start - random brackets generated each round - and seed.  One thing that does suck a bit - we end up with an uneven amount of teams and 1 team has to sit out.  This, I'm wagering, is because I'm choosing random bracket generated at start.  Will either of the other 2 options reduce the odds of 1 team having to sit out for several rounds?

In addition, there is a setting that I'm not familiar with - we can go single elimination, double elimination, and swiss.  What is swiss?

And for anyone else that is reading this - would you folks be interested in going double elimination next tourney?  By that, I mean you will play a different team each time, but the moment you use twice, you are done. 

demigod
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Reply #1 from Demigod Forums Top

NT

Reply #2 from Demigod Forums Top

http://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/ranker/swiss.html

It's pretty interesting tournament and is very well detailed in here. Of course I don't know if JeeSports uses same rankings (I read about accelerated swiss, etc. also, which is a bit different). It doesn't help that much if we have something like 5 teams though... Then on various rounds we would have one team, which would get instant win (plays against team "Bye" which always loses). However we have no elimination, so we can get more matches.

For example we have 5 teams. Adding a team Bye to make even number of teams. (I hope I understood how this works correctly, so sorry for any mistakes). Strength of teams is like this: A - strongest, E - weakest (except Bye).

Number Name      Points
1.     Team A.       0
2.     Team B.       0
3.     Team C.       0
4.     Team D.       0
5.     Team E.       0
6.     Team Bye.    0

1st Round.

Team A vs Team D. (winner A)
Team B vs Team E. (winner B )
Team C vs Team Bye (instant winner C)

After 1st Round.

Number Name      Points
1.     Team A.       1
2.     Team B.       1
3.     Team C.       1
4.     Team D.       0
5.     Team E.       0
6.     Team Bye.    0

2nd Round.

Team A vs Team C. (winner A)
Team B vs Team D. (winner B )
Team E vs Team Bye (instant winner E)

After 2nd Round

Number Name      Points
1.     Team A.       2
2.     Team B.       2
3.     Team C.       1
4.     Team D.       0
5.     Team E.       1
6.     Team Bye.    0

3rd Round.

Team A vs Team B. (winner A)
Team C vs Team E. (winner C)
Team D vs Team Bye (instant winner D)

After 3rd Round.

Number Name      Points
1.     Team A.      3
2.     Team B.      2
3.     Team C.      2
4.     Team D.      1
5.     Team E.      1
6.     Team Bye.   0

Overall rankings

Number Name      Points  Opp. Wins Rank

1.     Team A.        3       -         1
2.     Team B.        2       5         2
3.     Team C.        2       4         4
4.     Team D.        1       5         3
5.     Team E.         1       4        5
6.     Team Bye.     0       -         6

So as you see, we have three matches, where one of the teams doesn't play (instant wins). However winning against Team Bye isn't very good, because if you end up in a tie, your opponent Bye didn't get any wins, so you could get less wins from opponents... Also it would be good to sort out teams by strength from start (If that is even possible). Well anyway, we could try this if anyone is interested (I am).

Oh, and I hate those forums. Can't columns of numbers be straight instead of strange curves?

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Reply #3 from Demigod Forums Top

Thanks for the info, dark.  I pm'd kira, so he should be chiming in sometime in 1 or 2 days.

Reply #4 from Demigod Forums Top

not much time to post but basically i responded: http://www.jeelounge.com/l_forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=19

Reply #5 from Demigod Forums Top

okay i am back, my answer there is:

hi.
the uneven # teams things is a "bug" that our guys will be fixing.


i like swiss style because it allows teams to play several matches.
the brackets looks like http://www.screencast.com/users/Awillys/folders/Jing/media/6e2460af-4ccc-4143-a666-72de11a9df41
each team play all rounds.

these feedbacks/ideas would be valuable on the jeelounge forum. that's where i can ask my devs to check. i dont want them to run around too much.
here is the ticket i created earlier today regarding your fist point
http://www.screencast.com/users/Awillys/folders/Jing/media/94902186-cb70-4f40-9625-5392d756f189

the links in this tickets are: http://www.screencast.com/users/Awillys/folders/Jing/media/a349a163-c403-47e2-9c20-a9bb62358040
and http://www.screencast.com/users/Awillys/folders/Jing/media/013fd955-f42c-41e2-a198-520cb23f0987

best