Does anyone know the order in which effects apply (ex. when taking damage)?

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For example, if you cast the Rapture retaliation spell on a Kol with the adaptive shield on, does all incoming damage get reflected back at the attackers or only the fraction that the Kol actually takes?

Or if you have a Kol (again with the shield) under the effect of Shield Projection, does the Guardian take reduced damage from attacks directed at the Kol too?

And where do Armor and Mitigation fit in? If they apply before the retaliation effect for example that makes it a lot less potent.

A complete list would be good, but I'm especially interested in Armor/Mitigation, Malice, Retaliation and damage reduction.

 

 

Not sure whether this should be in the mod forum, but I would like to know for modding, so I posted here.

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

Yea probably should be in the general forum, but the info would be good to know for us. I am not sure if there is any "order" to the damage, buffs, or debuffs. From what i see whatever effect happens first is the one that takes priority. Mitigation as far as i know is factored into everything.

Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top

So does Malice damage go through mitigation twice? One for the initial target, and another time because it deals damage to another ship? That would make it spread only 7.5% damage at max mitigation. Same question for Shield Projection. And that would mean you should always cast retaliation first, so the damage goes through fewer reductions. Sounds stupid

And it can be pretty important for Advent, because you can have Shield Protection, Retaliation, Energy Absorption and buffed Mitigation all on the same ship. And you want the Retaliation spell to dish out maximum damage, as well as avoid wasting damage reduction buffs on things that only take 20% of incoming damage anyway. Especially since stacking different kinds of damage reduction should have diminishing returns, or, if they all stack additively, anything with max mitigation and some 40% of damage reduction would be invincible. (barring phase missiles)

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