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Sneak Peek at Sins: Entrenchment Tonight on G4TV

Sneak Peek at Sins: Entrenchment Tonight on G4TV

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/episodes/7992/Sins_of_Duty.html

Blair and Craig Fraser from Ironclad Games will be appearing on tonight's episode of X-Play on G4TV at 8pm ET.  The guys will be giving everyone a first-look at the upcoming Sins of a Solar Empire micro-expansion - Entrenchment.  Be sure to tune in!

For episode listings/details visit: http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/episodes/7992/Sins_of_Duty.html

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Reply #26 Top

At least there's hope considering while a superweapon requires some thought to use effectively, planting a starbase down and having a defined setup as to what defensive upgrades are good should be easy for the AI to accomplish.

Imagine chasing one of the eternally fleeing AI fleets expecting an easy win and jumping into a minefield surrounded by upgraded turrets and a starbase bristling with firepower.

Reply #27 Top

Quoting Mazuo, reply 1
At least there's hope considering while a superweapon requires some thought to use effectively, planting a starbase down and having a defined setup as to what defensive upgrades are good should be easy for the AI to accomplish.

Imagine chasing one of the eternally fleeing AI fleets expecting an easy win and jumping into a minefield surrounded by upgraded turrets and a starbase bristling with firepower.
End of Mazuo's quote

lol, an ai that is so smart as to know that humans expect it to run and thus set a trap based on their expected behavior of humans to follow them. thats brilliant :D

Reply #28 Top

Well, someone somewhere is bound to create Skynet. Might as well be IC, while I'm on their good side.

Remember,

if (Cyborg::AcquireTarget()=="Annatar" || Cyborg::AcquireTarget()=="Annatar11")

   SpareHuman();

Reply #29 Top

Unbelievable!!!! JUST ONE MORE MONTH TO GO!!!!!!!!

Shit this games just keeps on getting better and better...BSG mods, 7DS with their black holes and computer control and now THIS!

Screw university! I'm gonna play 24/7....J/K..but I think I'll be on it for a looooooooonnnnnggggggg while!

Reply #30 Top

:drool:  :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

U'r probablly wondering why there is cry here, well it's because I don't think I will be able to get the ENTRATCHMENT cause there are couple of problems:

1) I have no credit card, I asked a friend of mine who has to oder SoaSE for me but since there will only be digital doawnload for ENTRECHMENT (At least I heard like that) I will not be able to do so.

2) I live in Bosnia and Herzegovina :'( :'( :'( >:( >:( x_x x_x

Reply #31 Top

Do you have Paypal? That will work too. Impulse has a "gift" option, so your friend could buy it for you as a gift and it'll go into your account.

Reply #32 Top

Quoting Annatar11, reply 3
Well, someone somewhere is bound to create Skynet. Might as well be IC, while I'm on their good side.

Remember,

if (Cyborg::AcquireTarget()=="Annatar" || Cyborg::AcquireTarget()=="Annatar11")

   SpaceHuman();
End of Annatar11's quote

minimum change, maximum effect :D.

now, on a slightly more serious note: a learning ai would be very difficult to program, wouldn't it? I mean it would be cool if the harder ai analysed your tactics across games and then deploy according counter strategies. been teching for hc's the last few games? early rush. been building a massive economy base first, and then attack? also early rush. neglected carriers and flaks? extra strong carrier forces.

I mean the technicals could probably stored into somewhat manageable functoins, like "if before a certain time internaval, the human player has or has not done this and that -> save as manipulator for following game". but the question is if there is even a brigde for ai's outside of games itself.

Reply #33 Top

minimum change, maximum effect
End of quote

I like my version better, thank you.

I mean the technicals could probably stored into somewhat manageable functoins, like "if before a certain time internaval, the human player has or has not done this and that -> save as manipulator for following game". but the question is if there is even a brigde for ai's outside of games itself.
End of quote

In theory it's possible, yeah. The game already has stats for pretty much everything, and in most cases you could probably draw some parallels between the stats and strategy used (stuff like x credits spent on tactical buildings across x planets of the player's empire, slow ship progression = turtler). But then it's not so much a learning AI as an adaptable one, and one that's easy to exploit (win a game by turtling, and know that the AI in the next game will go with a rush to try and get you before you get defenses up).

A real "learning" AI would have to make these decisions during a game.. and that's a whole other ballgame :o

Reply #34 Top

Quoting Annatar11, reply 8

In theory it's possible, yeah. The game already has stats for pretty much everything, and in most cases you could probably draw some parallels between the stats and strategy used (stuff like x credits spent on tactical buildings across x planets of the player's empire, slow ship progression = turtler). But then it's not so much a learning AI as an adaptable one, and one that's easy to exploit (win a game by turtling, and know that the AI in the next game will go with a rush to try and get you before you get defenses up).

A real "learning" AI would have to make these decisions during a game.. and that's a whole other ballgame
End of Annatar11's quote

 

as always you have a point here. however, consider that I mean after a couple of games, not after a single one. any decent human would adapt to a player that has used a very similar set of strategies to beat him. if he does change them all of a sudden then I guess a human would be just a startled as a learning ai. the key of course is to relate it to what is going on in the current game, f.ex. via scouting. remember, a realistic ai is not the same as a perfect, or infallible ai. playing humans is often fun, because they do crazy things, unexpected stuff that sometimes failes, but surprises you nonetheless.

so while there has to be some learning and adapting during the game, I stil think that a few parameters between games would be good. depending on how deep the diplomacy changes in expansion 2 will be, it would even be interestin to establish a faction memory that remembers your trustworthyness in past games. betrayed those sect of cerebri before? hey, they might be a lot less willing to cooperate with you now.

Reply #35 Top

Quoting Overloard, reply 5
 

U'r probablly wondering why there is cry here, well it's because I don't think I will be able to get the ENTRATCHMENT cause there are couple of problems:

1) I have no credit card, I asked a friend of mine who has to oder SoaSE for me but since there will only be digital doawnload for ENTRECHMENT (At least I heard like that) I will not be able to do so.

2) I live in Bosnia and Herzegovina
End of Overloard's quote

 

dude no worries i´m german bought the game with paypal on release day and had no problems so far. just register with them and do the stuff that they ask. works wonderful for all kinds of things and you´ll always have paypal as the middleman for security :)

Reply #36 Top

Indeed this has filled me  with much excitement for SINS again :D

Reply #37 Top

Quoting Hellspont, reply 10



Quoting Overloard,
reply 5
 

U'r probablly wondering why there is cry here, well it's because I don't think I will be able to get the ENTRATCHMENT cause there are couple of problems:

1) I have no credit card, I asked a friend of mine who has to oder SoaSE for me but since there will only be digital doawnload for ENTRECHMENT (At least I heard like that) I will not be able to do so.

2) I live in Bosnia and Herzegovina


 

dude no worries i´m german bought the game with paypal on release day and had no problems so far. just register with them and do the stuff that they ask. works wonderful for all kinds of things and you´ll always have paypal as the middleman for security
End of Hellspont's quote

So you don't need to have a credit card for that if that's the case I'll check it out.