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Programs need to play nicely with protection.

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Programs need to play nicely with protection.

from Stardock Forums

I dunno about you, but I'm tired of programs telling me to disable firewalls and virus protection to run them.  Esp. in this day and age of endless viruses and hackers.

I'm sorry, but if I can't run a program due to my virus protection and firewalls, SCREW THAT PROGRAM.  I'm not fucking up my pc just to run it.

What do you guys think?

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Reply #51 from Stardock Forums Top
Lol. Don't hate the person speaking leet, hate the... game?
Reply #52 from WinCustomize Forums Top

If I were a mod, and I were just a bit meaner, that would be bannable.
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But.....it's 'fun'....;)

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Reply #53 from Sins Forums Top
I do not understand people who complain about having to deal with firewall or virus protection programs and conflicts with other programs. This is part of owning and operating a computer. Norton/McAfee/anything else is designed to stop unknown programs from taking over your computer. But it also needs to know which ones are the correct ones. Not every program can be listed in these virus program's definitions as "good/allowable", it is just to big a task for any company. So it falls on the user to make these changes manually.

Just like a car. Get new tires and they need to be balanced. Now the tire installation company will do it for you if you do not know how or have the equipment. But try driving on a new set of tires without balancing. Same goes back to the computer. If you do not know how to work on it, hire someone to do it for you. But everything is not automatic.

If this is not to people's liking, I suggest they stick to solitare and minesweeper to avoid the issues.
Reply #54 from Stardock Forums Top
Maybe if you bob's el cheapo explodable tires at the used car shop, which is about as good as buying norton or mcafee (which is kinda that that's all you mentioned, the two worst antivirus products), but if ya do you'll be balancing them every f'ing day.

Antivirus products should know most programs, esp. if they are updated alot. Stop playing with the trojans that are mcafee and norton and get something liek nod32.
Reply #55 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

I use a router firewall and haven't had any problems for four years straight.
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None that you know of, at least. Today's viruses and trojans are written for spammers, and generally try to keep very quiet about their existence.

In addition, the vast majority of malware today is spread not via open ports as was done in the past, but by hijacking legitimate streams of data, such as a web page. This will easily penetrate the vast majority of firewalls.

Although there is some debate in the technical community, especially those not really associated with security, the ones who specialize are in almost complete agreement: A good security system consists of many layers of protection, and getting rid of some of those layers is very foolish.

Antivirus plays a critical role in security: It detects when something has gotten past your defenses. Once something does, you should wipe the computer and restore from a backup. Antivirus software does not guarantee it can clean infections completely.

My opinion is: If you want the performance, fine: Go ahead and turn off real time detection. But do run a regularly scheduled scan. I run mine when I'm at work. 30 minutes after I leave, the scheduler starts it. When I come back, it's finished. I never notice it.

Even the best drivers will get rear-ended. They can do alot to reduce the chances, but they can't eliminate them. Ain't their fault, but it happens.
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Agreed. I was stopped at a stoplight during winter, and there was ice underneath the snow. The person behind me didn't realize that :(. Luckily, it was just a very minor accident.

As you say, however, you can reduce your chances. And that's what security is all about: Reducing your chances of getting infected. Every layer reduces the chance.

The secret is that I run Windows 2000.
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There are 21 known unpatched vulnerabilities in Windows 2000.

There are three known unpatched vulnerabilities in Vista.

I think I'll stick with Vista.

I dunno about you, but I'm tired of programs telling me to disable firewalls and virus protection to run them.
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Quite frankly, I ignore the warning and keep my security stuff on anyways. I have never, ever had a program fail to install due to my antivirus or firewall. Personally, I think it's mostly there to keep the lawyers happy.
Reply #56 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I had Encyclopedia Britannica on CD fail to install because of Norton Antivirus. By that point it was already well on its way to being that little program that's so smart it thinks it should be in control of everything about your computer.

Haven't been back to that sort of virus scanner since. Have a couple of anti-spyware things and Clamwin which I use to scan a couple of times a year when I can be bothered and never picks up anything.

I do use Netlimiter as a firewall though. I keep it on allow everything by default and disallow things that I don't want to call home as I spot them.