A 3rd party model is any model which is NOT built by myself, or another member of the SoA 2 team. We use models made mostly for Starfleet Command, and Bridge Commander mods. The majority of the Dominion faction came from the original SoA mod. As did the Nebula, The Negh Var, Kvort, etc. Who made which model "should" be on that particular models texture sheet. If it says "Trekmods" then it came from the original SoA mod.

I built the Excelsior (and all of its variants), The Fed fighter, All of the Federation stations except for the starbase, and Jupiter station. The Ambassador, Part of the Galaxy, The Constellation. Plus I had a hand in most of the Original SoA work.

Myself, and the SFC, BC, and Homeworld mod community built these models based on the Standards of Homeworld, BC, and Starfleet Command modding at the time. "Open" meshes with many intersecting polys, and other cheats to get away with the best looking ships for as few polys as possible. "Taste great-Less filling" is how i call the method.

Even though Bridge Commander said "closed" meshes were the best method for that particular game. We modeled them open anyway. It worked. There were no mesh issues. 4000 tri's in 2002-2003 was considered a ridiculous amount at the time. It still is ridiculous for an RTS game with hundreds of units on the map at once at any given time like Sins.

The main issue is ConvertXSI will sometimes corrupt "open" meshes. You will lose all tangent info,  or tangent info gets screwed up to where you have a single poly brightly lit while the rest of the mesh is dark, and in some cases faces will flip to where it looks like the mesh is missing faces.

for example. You model a half sphere, and place it over a "solid" cube to hide the area that is missing faces. That is considered an "open" mesh. The cube itself will convert just fine, but the open half sphere will corrupt.

This is why the models have to be re-meshed, because most if not all of them are "open" meshes. A closed mesh with no intersecting polys, and no open areas is called a "solid" mesh. Basically the way Bridge Commander wants its meshes is the way we "should" be meshing Sins models. You can get away with "some" open areas but it is a dice roll to see if it will come out corrupt, or not.

I thought the issue was ConvertXSI itself, but it seems it is the meshes themselves that are the issue.

I hope you all get this bit of tech talk.

The models that need the most love are the models that are the worst offenders in the "mesh corruption" aspect. Kvort, Excelsior, Negh Var, Kron, The Galaxy, The Defiant, ALL of the Dominion. Pretty much every model in game as far as i am concerned.

It is kind of funny 10 years ago i was fighting "texture corruption" in the Homeworld mods. Now it is the opposite, and i am fighting "mesh corruption".

We have yet to make any pirate ships.

Ask Jay, and crew about the AI, and Gameplay. I just want to build models.

Rightio. What about planets?

The OP could use a better title IMO. Feel free if you like it or suggest any changes.

Well the original title I did looked a hell of a lot better on white background, have a look here on white, png clear background. Thought I would give the loading screen a little love as well.

Im also doing the player pics adding more characters. So what do you think, does this one deserve consideration?

lol, I like the new pic!

Oh you just got to keep that one Myfists, You know he kind of looks like a a real pissed off Commander Riker, probably from the alternate universe though cannot imagine Riker with that bad haircut.

I'm thinking that would be a good pirate face.

Loading screen looks awesome.

Yeah, new pic is nice.

"Madness!?  THIS IS STARFLEET!!!"

I think he is yelling

"I AM NOT ONE OF YOUR DAMN DISPOSABLE RED SHIRTS"

Also working on replacing the Entrenchment logo

Here is the updated game load screen shot

your download links are bad.

Please be specific to which link or links you are refering next time.

Sacrifice of Angels 2 for Entrenchment

The file you are trying to access is no longer available publicly. 

This is why I gave up on A-drive. Every 30 days the link needs renewal. I like FileFront. No typing confirmations or waiting time for free users or all those damn adds.

Or i could be yelling "I AM NOT YOUR BOOTLICK!!", or This.. Is... DA-TAAAAAA!!!.

They all suck.. The file hosting sites that is. Every time i uploaded the downloads would all be corrupt, or we get this nonsense. Stand by the links should be fixed soon.

Send me the UI work you did Myfist0. Some of that definitely deserves to be incorporated.

It already is Major. Im on the Sync for SOA and SGI and Josh is getting the files in. Starting on Dip tomorrow.

Sounds like you're a real "Blood for the Blood God" type, eh Major?

Yup got them and finally fixed SOA glitches in dip for the most part. Once the ui is incorporated fully and we are happy we will be posting a update to SOA2 both for dip and Enrenchment. Stress I still cant add to the mod bd page contact me please . Very urgrent.

Thanks jay

Skulls for the Skull Throne! Chaos cannot be denied.

Jay I already tried to add you, but it will not let me. I do not know why. and tbh i really dont have the time, or patience to fight with ModDB right now. At least not until things chill out at my work.

Totally forgot you were on the sync list. Guess its time to update.

Porn for the Porn God!  Whores for the Whore Throne!

Foul Khornate...

Empty bravado coming from a lackey of the False Emperor. (starts singing in the tune of "Bad Boys") Whatcha gonna do when Chaos comes for YOU.

I would rather update our existing page , but looks like we will have to build a new one

:<

How dare you accuse me of being the lapdog of a corpse god.  The Prince of Excess will feed on your soul for that.

The "prince of excess"?! Ha! Like i said a lackey of the False Emperor Your Skull shall Adorne Khornes Throne! The Changer of Ways shall tear you apart! And Grandfather Nurgle shall feast upon your rotting corpse!

.... Errr oh wait, this is Trek. Not 40k. My bad

i get a strange error when i click to download this mod here. the massage says The file you are trying to access is no longer available publicly. can someone tell me were i can DL this mod thanks i want the latest version which they have here.

The team just needs to renew the ADrive link. I will remind the team leader.

Is there not a download link for this anywhere that works?  Entr version.

We know the links are dead FFS's. Give the team a few days to handle it, and find a better file host. We are all kind of busy with real life at the moment.

Links have been fixed.