Drop it as though it were hot

Hi,


On the off chance that you don't know already Beta 10 drops me out of 1v1 games constantly. The matches aren't recorded but it still fills me with sorrow.

 

Anyone else having this issue?

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=)

 

See 2 threads lower than yours. Me, Hydro, and DT are having the same issue which has so far inhibited me from climbing back on top of the leaderboard.

Do you remember who your opponents were at the time or were they all different people? DT and I have noticed a recurrence when we play one particular individual.

 

https://forums.offworldgame.com/475568/page/1/#3621570

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Please post your logs when you are dropped along with whether it happened on game start or during the game.

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How do I do I post logs? I don't know how to computer...

I would have done BlackMagic but reading is for suckas <3 Really? I heard that my intimidating levels of awesome was what was preventing you from climbing the ladder, I guess I was misinformed :P

I dropped a few times within recent memory both against different players, both new to me. One dropped about 8 mins in the other during found.


 

 

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Look for output.log in C:\Users\[Your Name]\Documents\My Games\Offworld\Logs

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I can't find C:\User\Soren on my computer......

 

 

 

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edited

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I am running an ancient imac at the moment as I am a hardcore gamer and demand only the best. Do the files I'm looking for label themselves thusly? D2071015.txt

 

Scratch that, on closer inspection they are diablo 2 logs

 

If not could you let me know what I'm looking for/what tempo i need to strike the keyboard with my face and yell in order to interact with my computator

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I've noticed a lot of "Match Errors" popping up once I've been paired with someone but before the loading screen appears.

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Pope, get wit the programe!!  Take a look at your equivalent  of My Documents, you want My Games and there should be an offworld folder that you could search for too.  In that folder you want another folder called logs.

 

Soren - Is the skirmish mode whilst you waiting for a 1v1 fixed?  Not getting interrupted when there are opponents like it should. 

Replay mode plays the replay from the last game, not necessarily from the Daily Chall.

Also when you start a skirmish waiting for 1v1 it does not use the skirmish settings that would be used when starting a game from main menu

Toggling the buildings menu off is not possible, it's far too cluttered with it on, can that be changed please.

 

Thanks

 

 

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Quoting kingmorgan, reply 9


Toggling the buildings menu off is not possible, it's far too cluttered with it on, can that be changed please.
 
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It is possible! Go under the options menu under the main screen and there's a check box for it now to start with it closed.

 

Back to the original thread. I'm still getting lots of drops going into QM where it kicks me back out immediately and i can't play the matches. I'm also still getting a 100% fail rate mid game when i play "mathemeticiansplaystrategygames."  I have at least 5 wins against him that don't count because it ends up dropping and it doesn't count wins or losses now when it drops like that. Ironically it seems to drop with him right after i use a black market item a lot of the time. Maybe if i didn't use BM i could get a win? |-)

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I'm not getting 3 points for winning a 4 QM FFA.   1 point is not enough to reward me for crushing 3 others.

 

Good news, the skirmish function did take me back to the queue when 4 players were assembled, but It did not save my skirmish game.

 

 

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Quoting kingmorgan, reply 11

I'm not getting 3 points for winning a 4 QM FFA.   1 point is not enough to reward me for crushing 3 others. 
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Hey yeah! I just played a 4 player FFA and I only got 1 point for winning. We want our points! =)

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@Blackmagic, I am guessing there is a crash bug involving the black market. Please share any replay, logs, or streams you have when you encounters this problem.

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Also, what do you mean by points. Do you mean you only got one star?

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@kingmorgan, could you load the skirmish by pressing Resume from the waiting for game screen?

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also, it definitely looks like you get 3 stars for winning a 4p match:

RankAvatarNameBracketScoreSecondaryScoreWinsLossesTies
1 Galactic Wino Rank 6 11 1309 6 12 0
2 kingmorgan Rank 7 8 1375 4 4 0
3 Zultar Rank 8 6 1443 2 0 0
4 Yerand Rank 8 6 1439 2 0 0
5 blackmagic Rank 8 6 1438 2 0 0
6 GranAK Rank 8 6 1363 3 3 0
7 Hydroponos Rank 9 3 1417 1 0 0
8 Dermas Rank 9 3 1357 1 3 0
9 L32 Rank 9 3 1317 1 5 0
10 virT_T Rank 10 0 1378 0 1 0
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Your Secondary Score formula clearly needs some work here. L32 has a 14% win rate but has a higher score than me despite my 33% win rate. Even better, VirT_T outranks me by 70 points with his 0% win rate :)

EDIT:  How you are implementing your rating formula? Are you are submitting the results from a 4 player match to an ELO algorithm designed for 2 player games as a set of 3 independent matches (eg: player 1 beat 2, player 1 beat 3, and player 1 beat 4)? If you are using a standard ELO assumption of a normally distributed population with a mean of 1400, a player like myself with greater than 25% winrate should be increasing in rating above 1400. It looks as if your weight factor is off and people are declining for not winning 50% or more of their games as in a normal 2p environment.

The author of this open source FFA algorithm: https://github.com/FigBug/Multiplayer-ELO has a nice working demonstration here http://elo-norsak.rhcloud.com/index.php and clear justification for his model.

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Quoting Soren_Johnson, reply 15

@kingmorgan, could you load the skirmish by pressing Resume from the waiting for game screen?
End of Soren_Johnson's quote

The save reloaded to earlier in the game where I had made a manual save.  

 

Ahh, good to know there are 3 points, the score is not shown on the ranking screen.