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Pacov's favorite dg game replays

Pacov's favorite dg game replays

Well, zen's got himself a nice thread going over here http://forums.demigodthegame.com/408072/page/3

Figure I'll join in.  I had a game tonight that, perhaps I was just in a good mood, but was quite a bit of fun.  You might want to watch this game just to ask yourself if you'd have been frustrated if you were me.  Then ask yourself if you are on the other team how fugging frustrated you must have been. 

It was a SUPER aggressive game... like the majority of each and EVERY encounter was to the death.  The sedna on my team was interesting to say the least.  No apparent understanding of sigils; no concept of getting healers (and it appeared to be a high level heal sedna no loss).  The other team eventually adopted a "LET'S KILL SEDNA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE" strategy... which is really a "pacov... make sure you have full mana and pack lots and lots of tps" strategy for me.  The best part of my no sigil sedna was how often he'd return at the right time for a kill. After being chased down and nearly killed (without a sigil or HEALERS no less), he'd be right back in there trying to pounce a speed da or ub... he saw me tp in, he'd turn around and give chase... even if he had like 800 hp.

Anyway, it was a really crazy game.  You'll notice some quick nonsense at the beginning where I tell my teammate I'm getting clerics only to find out he didn't grab monks, but beyond that... its just an entertaining game of the other team trying to gank over and over and mostly me running in to try to save and then gank myself.  It was nuts... my teammate would be about to die one second and doing silly things... then the next moment, going for a portal when he saw the opportunity.  Its actually a really solid game for me as well... I think I made 1 error in judgment the entire game (and it didn't cost us a thing... not referring to the silliness at the beginning of the game.. that was bad...).

Anyway, watch away if you like.  No mods required for this game.

CheesusCrust Forces of Light Lord Erebus 160 Won
mesoStoned Forces of Light Sedna 0 Lost *
UltraNoob33 Forces of Darkness Demon Assassin 55 Lost
etasan Forces of Darkness Unclean Beast 0 Lost *

 unfortunately, when etatsan quit before the game ended (like less than a minute) he took meso with him, so meso didn't get a win.

Link to the replay:  http://www.box.net/shared/oar44z8hh1peklsdkus8

7/18/2011 -new replay

going to add the 1v1 vs papp I was tricked into (DIE_MINION!!!! YOU AFK BASTARD!!).  Anyway, its 2 tier 1 folks fighting it out - I went reg vs tb, so slight adv to papp on dg selection.  Pretty solid play that gives everyone a nice example of a tb trying to juke mines from a reg (and a reg trying to adjust to stop throwing the mines and pick where I think tb will end up) and a reg trying to compensate for a hybrid tb with 2 interrupts.  Plus the usual reg trap fun.  If you don't play alot of reg, this would be a good game to watch for how I try to set traps... pretty sure I tried to set > 10 in this game.  TBH - I don't completely regret my decision to go early priests... part of me did it because I wanted to end the 1v1 (as it's not my fav game and pro 1v1's can take hours) and the other half of me was using it to distract ppap so he'd try to farm while I whittled down his towers by the portals.  In hindsight, I'd probably have been better off to go cur2 and stall.  I really don't suggest anyone go early (or late priests in a 1v1 unless you are up against someone with no aoe that hasn't picked up natures reck.  I choose to for the reasons above (strategic and suicidal).  ... anyway, here's the replay.  No mods required to view.  Adding this to the OP.

http://www.box.net/shared/f1y9ba44qr96nidjnk57

And just to clarify - the game was meant to be a 2v2 (zen+ppap vs pacov+die_minion).  Die minion was afk and zen agreed to stay at base until minion came back... which he never did... so it became a 1v1. 

And that said, ppap certainly beat me.  Outside of the priest decision, I certainly played my best.  Fun game and well played.  You can even see me still trying to work it out late game with him having giants.  I saw him linger after he got my portal before the tp, so I figured he probably couldn't relock or stop me from retaking.  LOVE seeing players being very strategic and keeping the push on.  Even after he fugged up by staying long enough for me to recap the portal.  Very little lag.  I think I wasn't able to adjust a total of 2 mine throws throughout the game.  And that's pretty good.  Sucks that I couldn't change them, but really... 2 misses because of lag the entire game is not so bad.  Great game.

 

 7/24/20111 - new replay

adding a replay so zen can't complain about my replays being crap anymore:

http://www.box.net/shared/a738r3ttapbdv5njfhhi

This one is me and mcbane vs nils and zen.

Mcshane and I get WAAAAYYY behind on ws and I change up tactics to harass the crap out of their portals (as I know we can't take them in combat).  So, I do my dance and distract the crap out of the them was much as possible.  Was a super fun game.  Ended with me and mcshane holding 3 portals and nils banging away on the citadel with giants, etc. If we had been able to stop 1 more wave of creeps we'd have probably won it.  Super fun game.  Adding to op.  If you want to see a super annoying sedna... watch

7/28/20111 - new replay

well, here we go.  A new replay.  This one is for you folks wondering about gaabriel.  He tore up rin and thunder a wee bit in a 2v2 game tonight. 

gaabriel Forces of Light Regulus 190 Won
CheesusCrust Forces of Light Sedna 120 Won
Thundercles Forces of Darkness Torch Bearer 40 Lost
TSK-Rin Forces of Darkness Queen of Thorns 0 Lost *

He bought cur1 and cur2.  Solid play throughout on his part.  He took HW and stole one wave from me.  Asked him to stop and he was 100% after that first wave.  No complaints.  Got to play lazy never die sedna and relax most of the game.

Anyway, his strat was pretty damn solid.  he was a low HP reg, but had a sigil pretty much 100% of the time after ws2 or 3.  He's fight and get fugged up... then run, getting close to the point of death.  I'd see this and light up my tp to come heal, he'd pop his sigil and his opponent would be forced to run thinkging FUUUUUGGGG.  Sigils are crap value when you only get 1500 or so out of it, but he milked it perfectly.  Folks generally assume there will be a pot to save more etc... but he always went for the good stuff even at a big cost to him.  It paid off.  Could hurt a hell of a lot in other games, but he scored quite a few solid kills using his kite (look at me I'm super low HP reg) and sigil method.

From playing this game, I think gaab is a much better reg than a sed.  Or maybe perhaps he's just much better in 2v2.  He did a great job and I pretty much was along for the ride. 

http://www.box.net/shared/k84drdcdo6x0bf3ktzyx


7/28/20111 - new replay

just had a fun 2v2.  thunder(hybrid tb) + pacov (never die sed (well i did die once :P )) vs zen's erb (he didn't just save for godplate to my chagrin) + ppap (hybrid tb).  My team lost.  I think the good things to watch were zen and ppap being super aggressive and mindful of the map for when to push and be obnoxious. I think I made a pretty solid decision pushing their portal when they were obssessed on trying to grab valor vs thunder.  I think I had a VERY solid strat then anyway.  I had just been "kinda" forced to run the crystal.  I figure they were expecting me to come back to mid and fight, so I immediately ported over to hp and ran to their portal.  They didn't even try to tp to me, so I'm pretty sure thunder put up a good show to keep their attention.  Its difficult in pro games to get sneaky, but I think I pulled that off without them figuring out what I was doing as it was a pretty quick move.

They obsessed early on tearing down the middle towers.  This is a GREAT end game strat as it means you can easily push for portals or valor.  I don't have any major complaints about how my team played.  I wish we'd have gotten giants as I had 2 waves pushing their cit solid at the end.  Giants MIGHT (and it a big might) have made a difference in us killing their cit before they killed ours.  I didn't really get to check thunders money situation out at the end, but I'd wager he was in the same boat as me (had 3800 or so when the game ended).  I figured I needed to keep my kit, but in hindsight, they left me solo their cit for a bit, so I probably could have sold). 

Other thoughts - I love that ppap can be made to obsess about siege archers, etc.  He did a pretty solid job of handling them as I tried to walk them by him, but I, as a rule, just let those fuggers tear down my towers if I have to.  I usually view leveling up and getting flag control as a higher priority than dicking around with the little guys.  That said, I probably should have grabbed natures reck to compensate a bit as it was clear it was going to be archer fun from zen.

I also love and hate this sedna build.  I absolutely hate lacking the dps I get from my fu die sedna build.  I get that I really need to go with live forever sed in 2v2, but so often I'm thinking... wow.. I just pounced for 400 and they have 3k hp... wooo... check me out.  I can silence them now and my teammate only needed to magically do 2600 dmg.  fing low dmg build.  Still... live forever is nice.  But also boring... had a moment where it was me vs zen for like 2-3 minutes i think... him expecting me to run out of mana and run, me knowing I'd never get an adv on him, but there was no reason to run.  Pretty boring, but oh well. 

Here you go if you like:

http://www.box.net/shared/caaebnvjnlcy70rmrujp

 

 

 

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Reply #26 Top

ppapanek makes it work, 

Yup, I've learnt a lot from ppapa. Not only bad words in Korean, you know.

Reply #27 Top

Quoting OMG__IN1, reply 22
The very same games you are afraid of? Well, I play them whenever there is one up. For some mysterious reason, I never see you there. Ask nnnils, Zen, ppapa, Shane.

So, my dear killingspring or whatever you prefer to call yourself now, go back to cheating 1v1 vs noobs. That's what you are good at, after all, no? Don't spoil intelligent discussions by your inane babblings, pretty please.
End of OMG__IN1's quote

 

Iv seen your gamelist man, you playing with mids. You only played once or twice in an all skilled game. You shud check mine... Pretty much all my game was with skilled players  with a few exception. Maybe thats the reason that even tho we have around the same amount of games im pretty sure i wud do better in any situation with any demigod. Sorry if i was harsh but u were too  

Reply #28 Top

Quoting JUSThaveFUN, reply 25
ppapanek makes it work, he does it with oak too. It's very difficult to pull off though.
End of JUSThaveFUN's quote

 

I used to do that when i played assasin oak and if u dont go crazy in the beginning its an awesome build.

Reply #29 Top

Quoting visca_el_barca, reply 27
You shud check mine... Pretty much all my game was with skilled players  with a few exception
End of visca_el_barca's quote

Not lately though I guess?  I found this pretty hard to believe since there's not a lot of skilled players around anymore and I've seen you like 3 times, so I looked at your last two and laughed, then gave up..

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1710778/player/128993/ 

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1710771/player/128993/

Reply #30 Top

Ye

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 29
Not lately though I guess? I found this pretty hard to believe since there's not a lot of skilled players around anymore and I've seen you like 3 times, so I looked at your last two and laughed, then gave up..

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1710778/player/128993/

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1710771/player/128993/
End of GM-McShane87's quote

 

Haha!! You dont have to look just read the name of the games. When its says something like only skilled, or no noobs thats usually ppanek, nnils or zens game. And the reason u havent seen me is that wat i cud make out u dont play much and the other reason is that me neither, nowdays anyway. Those 2 games that you highlighted is me teaching new players to play. And yes, i was teaching, slowing gamespeed and all that crap. You can ask them if you see them they might remember.Actually they wanted me to teach them more so agreed to play 1 more game with them. And thats why my last 2 games is againts them but yeh thanks for pointing that out!

 

Heres some good staff so u wont have to look:)

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1709012/player/128993/

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1708727/player/128993/

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1697342/player/128993/

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1696940/player/128993/

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1693399/player/128993/

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1691826/player/128993/

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1691239/player/128993/

 

Some ggs here and it turns out u are in 2 of them and not the winning side Shane;)

 

Reply #31 Top

ppanaek was not the first person to do that.

The people who did would be ... the very first week of demigod where everyone used Swift Anklet.

If you mean competitive games, then TPindris and Sakke/Erksa both predate ppanaek by two years. This was after the high priest bugfix, fyi. 

I used to play competitively for months with a guy who used Swift Anklet Oak (irek). 

Swift Sedna can work just fine in 2v2 on mana side, I've seen people do it, and recommend it against minion builds. 

 

Stop acting like I've never seen anything creative ever. 

Reply #32 Top

Iv seen your gamelist man, you playing with mids.

Yup, with mids vs T1s. Happened several times (if you consider Bielasso a mid, that is, which I wouldn't), and to hold it against me in this context is... a bit strange. Anyway, I don't feel like convincing you, killingspring, of anything.

As a rule, I don't join nnnils/ppapa's 2v2s, as I still consider myself a bad 2v2 player and a liability in 2v2. If these guys host 3v3s -- gladly, why not? Any game marked 'no noobs' goes, tbh. You cannot be too picky these days: you play with whomever is online, I suppose. I lack the ability to magically conjure ppaparin to the other team every time I go online.

Reply #33 Top

Stop acting like I've never seen anything creative ever. 

Well, no one is acting like that. It's just you advocate a certain position quite rigidly, so people say: "Hey, ppapanek does it and it works!". Otherwise, we have no doubt you had a fair share of original, ahem, antediluvian experiences O:)

Reply #34 Top

Two quick notes about your gamelist:

That one is an achievement, unless kamil left mid-game (he has a * marking):

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1708727/player/128993/

This one I won't hold vs Shane. I suppose you are better than his teammates in this one. I sincerely hope so, at least:

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1696940/player/128993/

 

Now, I can easily conjure a list of 7 games containing the same impressive names (and more) on both sides from the last month. So cut the crap, please, will ya? You judge my builds in general based on one half-assed game we had together, which is unwise, to say the least. I'm sure your theoretical remarks look goddamn smart to you, but they really manage to demonstrate only the rigidness of your thought: no problem, keep hp-stacking for another 1000 games, if you find it interesting and productive, just don't try to boss people around with your 'revelations'. For example, you keep asking, parrot-style, why do I need Wand of Speed on an AoT build. The answer is obvious: AoT gives you grand-scale mobility, but no tactical security. In other words, good luck trying to escape a gank/chase a fleeing opponent with AoT.

 

Reply #35 Top

Maybe thats the reason that even tho we have around the same amount of games im pretty sure i wud do better in any situation with any demigod. Sorry if i was harsh but u were too 

 

Well, I don't know why do you bring the virtual penis size up... The only DG I'm close to pro level with is Sedna, and I play her very support/teamplay-oriented, so I'm not sure what you mean. Never seen your Sed, but it goes without saying you are freaking amazing with her :) I'm not bad with QoT, but I play her very differently -- she's a support DG in my hands, too. I'm sure I cannot take on you 1v1 as a UB or something. I won't even try, because if I will by some miracle, you'll host DC, right? :)

And no, I wasn't harsh. You are a cheater, aren't you? Darkliath caught you. And you do jump to conclusions based on one game/present some stupid commonplace musings as marvelous revelations, don't you? Just stating the obvious. 

Reply #36 Top

How old are you? :O Cose you acting like a pissed 12 years old. :banhammer:

 

Quoting OMG__IN1, reply 34
Now, I can easily conjure a list of 7 games containing the same impressive names (and more) on both sides from the last month
End of OMG__IN1's quote

Checked the last 2 pages of your game list and u have like 8 wins altogether. Only 1 where there are at least 2 good players and even in that game the enemy team had a noob on their side. So good luck with that list.

Quoting OMG__IN1, reply 35
Well, I don't know why do you bring the virtual penis size up... The only DG I'm close to pro level with is Sedna, and I play her very support/teamplay-oriented, so I'm not sure what you mean
End of OMG__IN1's quote

I brought it up cose u called me a noob-basher and a player who doesnt know anything about the game. Well if we look at the fact that u can only play 1 dg and suck even in that then theres nothing to discuss further in this matter.

Quoting OMG__IN1, reply 35
I won't even try, because if I will by some miracle, you'll host DC, right?
End of OMG__IN1's quote

You can host

 

 



Reply #37 Top

Quoting visca_el_barca, reply 30
Some ggs here and it turns out u are in 2 of them and not the winning side Shane;)
End of visca_el_barca's quote

Lol, well what can I say, crazier things have happened; like you losing with zen and nnils on your team to queen + reg to name one http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1696447/player/128993/

Also I remember you now as the guy who screws with the sim speed of your games when you're losing and then rage quits if that doesn't work.  Another thing is the vast majority of your wins came in the first 2 months of you playing games with titles such as "noobs"  "noobs welcome"  "only noobs" "noob game" "1v1 fast reg or da"  Really not the stunning resume you seem to think it is aside from those 2 glorious wins over me.  :(O

Reply #38 Top

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 37
Lol, well what can I say, crazier things have happened; like you losing with zen and nnils on your team to queen + reg to name one http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1696447/player/128993/

Dude you making yourself look ridiculous with these comments. First, you shud have learnt from your lesson and shudnt have put another one of my game on display and then comment ont it. Fyi Darkliath had her 21 birthday that day <3 We didnt play seriously to say the least. Zen was playing without items for like 30 minutes then he bought hungarling... And after that i think nnils got fed up with zen screwing around and left. So yeah, plz stop putting up my games. You just making yourself look stupid  :banhammer:

[quote who="GM-McShane87" reply="37" id="2967942"]Also I remember you now as the guy who screws with the sim speed of your games when you're losing and then rage quits if that doesn't work.

End of GM-McShane87's quote

I have wireless net. Sometimes it works fine sometimes it doenst i dont screw with it on purpose.

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 37
Another thing is the vast majority of your wins came in the first 2 months of you playing games with titles such as "noobs"
End of GM-McShane87's quote

You got me there. You are totally right i admit. In my first 2 months of playing dg i  did join many noob games but thats because I WAS A NOOB MYSELF!!! lol  But im sure u just came in and were playing with Tier1 players straight away :grin: (heh?) ??

 

Reply #39 Top

How old are you? :O  Cose you acting like a pissed 12 years old. :banhammer:

 

Nope, I'm not pissed off. In fact, I do not think of myself highly as a player. Maybe as a Sedna player - yes, to a degree. But overall - no. My issue with you is I just happen not to like cheaters and, indeed, noob-bashers :) 

 

I brought it up cose u called me a noob-basher and a player who doesnt know anything about the game. 

 

The first statement is factual. You are a noob-basher. The second one was invented by you. Of course, you know a lot about the game, and obviously, you are a solid player (and always were, even as a noob). Which does not contradict the fact you are extremely narrow-minded. If you cannot understand the difference between the two -- well, sorry.

 

if we look at the fact that u can only play 1 dg and suck

 

Well, 2 DGs. And I don't suck with either :) Ask people that played with me a bit more than one game :) Your opinion is based on 1 (one!) unsuccessful match, where I was still experimenting with AoT build. Kind of stupid, don't you think so?

 

Checked the last 2 pages of your game list and u have like 8 wins altogether.

 

Well, I'm not afraid to enter hopeless match-ups and play vs stacked teams. I don't care about %. Plus disconnects. Now, since I play either Sed or QoT, I cannot really carry my team through.

Reply #40 Top

And i think this shud be the end of our convo In1 and Shane. Im tired of commenting your stupid comments. back to the topic plz :X

Reply #41 Top

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 37
Lol, well what can I say, crazier things have happened; like you losing with zen and nnils on your team to queen + reg to name one http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1696447/player/128993/
End of GM-McShane87's quote
this game will never disappear^^ might as well put it in my jukebox xD

 

Reply #42 Top

Quoting visca_el_barca, reply 38
nnils got fed up with zen screwing around and lef
End of visca_el_barca's quote
even nnnils rages? oO

Reply #43 Top

Quoting JUSThaveFUN, reply 42
even nnnils rages? oO
End of JUSThaveFUN's quote
only when playing with noobs like you ;)

Reply #44 Top

Quoting visca_el_barca, reply 38
Dude you making yourself look ridiculous with these comments. First, you shud have learnt from your lesson and shudnt have put another one of my game on display and then comment ont it. Fyi Darkliath had her 21 birthday that day We didnt play seriously to say the least. Zen was playing without items for like 30 minutes then he bought hungarling... And after that i think nnils got fed up with zen screwing around and left. So yeah, plz stop putting up my games. You just making yourself look stupid 
End of visca_el_barca's quote

Lol. Explain how you managed to blow this one now http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1693460/player/128993/  You lost to good players but Occ and Queen together with no interrupts when your partners are UB and Sedna? Come on now.

Quoting visca_el_barca, reply 38
I have wireless net. Sometimes it works fine sometimes it doenst i dont screw with it on purpose.
End of visca_el_barca's quote

You screw with the game speed when you're being owned, rapidly turning it up and down hoping to make the other team screw up or quit, I don't know what you do with your net. 

Quoting visca_el_barca, reply 38
I WAS A NOOB MYSELF!!! lol  But im sure u just came in and were playing with Tier1 players straight away (heh?) ??
End of visca_el_barca's quote

Actually I was incredibly good almost instantly, great assumption.  

Reply #45 Top

Quoting OMG__IN1, reply 15
BotF Sedna is great early game, when she can push off/hold flags. That, and a security mechanism protecting from good Regs. However, mid game+ BotF Sed is pathetic. Not just weak. Pathetic. All you have is your half-assed tank hp pool, and no failure tolerance to speak of. That is, unless you seriously plan to invest in J-Treads -- which will mean you failed in your support role and bought an egotistic item instead of giants. Don't even get me started on Silence 2 -> TP, please. It only works in completely non-laggy games, so it's impractical. 
End of OMG__IN1's quote
lol u gotta be kidding.. BotF sed is pathetic`?? when u have a regular kit with her (2helmets,2hp items and unbreakable boots) u have 5-6k hp.. she almost gets unkillable when shes got good teammates.. 1200 heal, bishops heals, hp per second.. crazy 2k hp heals when on sigil.. silence to prevent the enemies from stunning heals etc.. you obviousely have never seen a decent blood sedna.. u just need to know when to back up or engage.. we should play that mirror match once im back from the UK |-)

Reply #46 Top

Quoting nnnils, reply 45
we should play that mirror match once im back from the UK
End of nnnils's quote

 

What u doing there nnils? party? :grin:

Reply #47 Top

Oh and Nills!!!

 

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Quoting nnnils, reply 45
lol u gotta be kidding.. BotF sed is pathetic`??
End of nnnils's quote

 

"Don't spoil intelligent discussions by your inane babblings, pretty please." :w00t:

Reply #48 Top

lol u better shut up

Reply #49 Top

Oh and Nills!!!

 

"

Quoting nnnils,
lol u gotta be kidding.. BotF sed is pathetic`??

 

 

"Don't spoil intelligent discussions by your inane babblings, pretty please." :w00t:

 

Nnnils is a part of that intelligent discussion. I replied to his comment in the first place. Your attempts to associate yourself with nnnils are pathetic (just like BotF Sed late game is ;)). 

 

we should play that mirror match once im back from the UK |-)

 

With you, always a pleasure. Just pm me.

Reply #50 Top

So when its nnils who says that blood is better favor for sedna then amulet and that u havent played in skilled games enough yet, then its an inteligent conversation. And when i say it its inane babbling.