That's not exactly what I'd describe as a constructive tone, given that we've been busting ass for the past month to support Demigod, and have already discussed rewarding those who stick with us in other ways. Brad took issue with the comment, and as it's his company he ultimately gets to decide whether to accept someone's patronage or not.

The only other "mandatory refund" I'm aware of offhand was Chaosnaska, but he was a pretty obvious troll and he already wanted a refund anyway.

As far as I know there was a post mentioning certain game mechanics that are not working very well and a SDG employee took it upon him/herself to ban/refund said poster.

si1foo thats funny i dont even know choas, and no hes not the only one whos been banned unfortunately

you shouldnt start a flame war cuz u might get banned lol

i personally believe that being banned for something said on a forum is straight stupid and a horrible decision by whatever person in startdock did that

u wont let him play the game anymore cuz ur mad about what he said about the game...i thought this forum was for input on the game...

my mistake

You still fail to realize the difference between "input" and "trolling." Give constructive critism and you won't have to worry about being banned.

no im failing to realize it, ur failing to realize that someone was banned who WASNT trolling

he was giving contstructive critism...explain plz

Accountability for the things you say on the internet.

Amazing, huh?  Can't just spew whatever you feel like!

I get a warm fuzzy feeling just thinking about it.

If your game has problems there is going to be harsh criticism.  You have to expect that.  None of the players can possibly know all the behind-the-scenes and your "back breaking" work that has been going on for 3 weeks, and yet you admit to that work and expect your players to sit around for that lengthy span of time?  All the while the issues accumulate, the service gets worse and the players grow more and more disatisified.

While you are paid to deal with these issues, the gamers just want to play, just want what was promised and, understandably, expected.  Blaming the community for your inability to resolve your company's issues is something that needs to be worked out interally.  NOT on your forums where feedback should be expected of both the positive and negative variety.  Without hearing that negativity, you developers exist in a cocoon of ego and self-promotion believing you've done all right.  While the community is effectively silenced and you are led to wonder why your sales are down q over q. 

You haven't provided a link or post name that shows someone who was banned for no reason. Do so and I will be happy to consider your point.

As for Chaosnaska, he was a troll. There is no argument about this. He was occasionally funny, but he crossed the line. He got what he deserved. Not to mention that he literally asked for it.

What you guys (Warskull and Tiny) dont realise is that Stardock have been working their ass off on an absolute 24/7 hour bases, and they are probably very stressed atm. Calling Demigod a "defective product". The fact they are giving us a 50% off coupon for all this trouble should make you very grateful, not make you flame towards them.

However I still think the decision was very harsh and you guys you should review it.

Then those players obviously needs to read the journals that Frogboy update frequently.

That aside, I do agree that banning Warskull was a bit harsh..

We do experience disconnects, my favor was still bugged as of Wednesday night, and there is a lack of recognition for many such issues - even with the weekly journals and all your efforts at communication.

Brad decided to terminate a person's account based on one post he found offensive. You can call that post harsh, and strongly disagree with his opinion - but there was no rule breaking involved in posting it. You have moderating procedures to deal with such things.

The offense, if proven, does not warrant the response - especially considering Warskull's contributions to this forum and your game since beta.

Except Warskull did not have a history of being an "obvious troll", quite the opposite. He obviously touched a nerve, but your response has been entirely out of proportion - and out of character.

Gimme a fucking break, they get paid to make this fucking game work...

OH YEAH

WELL

SCREW ALL OF YOU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cr9_E5B_xE

Not knowing how to make multiplayer is one thing Not knowing how to not get sued is another...

Yes, forums are made to discuss, and yes it is perfectly okay to disagree with someone. However, you forget that this forum DOES belong to Stardock and they can ban whoever the hell they feel like for whatever the reason they feel like. WarskullX and Chaosnaska both have faced a ban on the end of very lenient moderators and they should be thankful. And they weren't banned for their opinion, they were banned for being an outright dick and annoying the crap out of everybody.

Frankly, it doesn't matter how stupid you believe something is, or how right you believe something is, because I really don't think anybody cares about what you think is stupid or dumb. And yeah, your mistake. If you are going to leave, leave. If you are going to stay, then live with it. You are just a nobody in this world -- actually, worst than that because you don't yet realize your nothingness.

I think they have both learned a valuable lesson that, out here in the real world your actions have consequences. It's not like they were yelling at their grandma or their parents.

SD and Frogboy have no obligation to eat crow, nor should they. You want to express an opinion, fine, but don't think you can just run off at the mouth and not get called on it.

How exactly was WarskullX "annoying the crap out of everybody"?

(Chaosnaska was annoying, I'll give you that.  I had that 4chan mentality...)

Rofl you owned yourself bro ...

Yes, forums are made to discuss, and yes it is perfectly okay to disagree with someone. However, you forget that this forum DOES belong to Stardock and they can ban whoever the hell they feel like for whatever the reason they feel like.

and then...

Frankly, it doesn't matter how stupid you believe something is, or how right you believe something is, because I really don't think anybody cares about what you think is stupid or dumb.

lawllawlawlawlawlawl

I belive Warskull's post was mainly aimed at the comments that people who have logged some play time are no longer elligible for a full refund because the game "is working for them".  I think his main point was yes, they have logged playtime but there are aspects of Demigod that, despite being worked on (hard) by the dev team, still aren't working properly.  By this I mean the connectivity problems, favor and things of that nature.  You may disagree but that sounds to me as though something isn't working as advertised in the marketting or on the box.  Hence the game is "broken" in some sense and they should be entitled to the "not working" refund.  He then pointed out how the Gamer's Bill of Rights relates to that as well.

He wasn't the most diplomatic in his post but I really think it was grounds for a banning like that.  I can see how nerves might be a bit frayed on the powers that be but the reaction he got didn't seem warranted.

As for Chaos... Well I won't miss him and he seemed to take pride in poking bears (devs, mods, CEOs) with sticks.  He more or less got what he was asking for.

And no, I don't want a refund.

-dolynick

Tiny,

How many hours do you spend going to work/school?  8 hours a day?  More?  Do you get payed for ever hour?

I'll let you in a on a secret, most game developers are salary.  That is they get paid for 40 hours a week but if they need or have to work more they do not get paid extra!

I suspect this is the case for Stardock.

Unless you've worked mulitple 70 hour work weeks (only getting paid for 40 hours of work) I suggest you STFU.

-Jara

PS: Yes, they should have been more prepaired and or done a open beta to try to catch these problems before the general public had to deal with them -- but that's water under the bridge.

They're trying to do there best to fix things and while I'm sure they would have loved to have things fixed sooner rather than later but it's sometimes impossible to do so given the resources time/money they have avaliable.

How exactly did he own himself? ....

I'm confused, was this warskull guy banned from the forum, or banned from the forum and the game's multiplayer?

He said forums are a place to put your opinion then he turns around and says no one cares ... so um ... yeah!

And btw

http://forums.demigodthegame.com/posts/3084340

Warskull imo ... if you go look at that made a few posts and was pretty dang in-detail to help. So what did he get banned for? He get mad and say one thing and get a insta ban? Idk .. didn't seem like a bad guy to me.

I think he was banned from the forum and refunded and banned from the game too. I'm not sure though. I don't even know who this warskull is.