Universal health care for all, but you disabled vets must pay

Just another kick in the teeth

from JoeUser Forums

 

The Obama administration has announced a plan to save 540 million dollars by having a veteran’s private insurance reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs for any medical services provided at a VA hospital.

 

What makes it worse is that this will include any medical treatment needed for in service injure!>:(

 

I can semi understand those injures received after departure from service or those not connected to an existing problem, but this is madness.  If a person is injured while serving this country, he should not be paying for medical treatment.

 

Now I know some of you will say “but the soldier will not pay, only the insurance”.  BS, most private insurance premiums will come out of the soldier’s pocket.  This does not account for the fact that employers will have second thoughts about hiring a disabled vet (or any vet), because of the higher cost to his insurance policies.  I am just wondering how much more a vet or his employer will be paying for insurance after the insurance companies wise up and adds a check this block if you’re a vet, on all insurance application forms.

 

It takes forever as it is now to get treatment at the VA hospital for free, now I’m going to have to pay for it too?  If I am wrong about this please correct me.

 

What would you expect from Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki.  One of the most disliked Generals in modern US Army history.  He was the one that ordered us to wear that crappy beret.  He is just a gift that keeps giving. 

 

 

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Reply #1 from PolMach Forums Top

Usually I am all about cutting government spending.  However when it comes to our combat veterans I think they should be taken care of 100%, at least from a medical standpoint.  There is no combat veteran who should ever be denied any healthcare (mental or physical) that they need and they shouldn't have to pay a cent out of pocket for it.  They have already paid the ultimate price by putting their lives on the line to protect this country.

Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

My brother was just told he  recently is  now considered a disabled Vet even though if you look at him he looks pretty normal with no obvious injuries.  He has bad knees because he injured them playing soccer while he was in the service.  I guess they're pretty bad and he will eventually need knee replacement but you wouldn't know it by looking at him. He wrenched his back while on duty in the Gulf War and has occassional bad back problems that come and go. 

So he was told for the rest of his life he gets absolute free medical coverage.  He does not have to (as far as I know) even have to carry any private insurance.  He was also told because he's considered on the disabled list that if he applies for a government job he goes right to the top of the list. 

He found this all out because he was told he might lose his job as an airline pilot.  So he went back to a government job he had at a Naval Shipyard.  They said there were no jobs available.  When he mentioned that he was considered disabled...they said "that changes everything.  We can put you at the top of the list and you will get the next available spot."

My Dad served 4 years in the late 50's in the Navy, never seeing war nor being injured and also receives health care at his local VA hospital. 

So I guess I'm just wondering what's the big deal? 

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

My Dad served 4 years in the late 50's in the Navy, never seeing war nor being injured and also receives health care at his local VA hospital.
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Under Obama's Plan, if your Dad has some type of private/employee coverage it will be billed first.  The VA will only pick up the bill if he has no coverage.  Now if that same coverage is linked to the rest of his family, it will most likely have some sort of upper limit.  If that family limit is reached by having to cover an in service injure, your Dad will have to pay out of pocket to cover the rest of the family for the rest of the year.

So he went back to a government job he had at a Naval Shipyard.
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The Government jobs are required to give prefence to vets (with disabled even more), but private bussiness is not.  The added cost to emploryers could be stagering.

Many Government contractors prefer to hire vets, but those same contractors are there to make money.  A contractor/bussiness does not keep its doors open in order to provide insurence.  If cost get to high, they will have to close their doors.

Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top

Obama said he would help out vets. I guess he thought their wallets were too heavy a burden to carry.

This isn't the only crazy thing that is happening. If your a retired vet with a 40% disability or less, they take your disability money out of your retirement check, send it to the VA, and they send it to you. In a nutshell you pay your own disability check to yourself. Military are the only "Federal" employee's this trick applies to. This all stemmed from the Government not wanting to pay disabled southern soldiers after the  Civil War. Vets between 50 -100% just started getting 2 separate checks about 5 years ago. Wham bam thank you ma'am.

Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top

disarm the people, drive away people from military service, collapse the economy while convincing people its your political opponents faults, set your DA on a witch hunt for political oponents but spin it as a good thing...

I am smelling a coup. Barak Obama... president for life of the USA...

Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top

Yet another reason to not waste our time with our VA medical "benefits".

 

During the Bush administration, the incompetent press reported that the Bush administration was charging troops for the food they ate while in military hospitals.  This was only partly true.  The injured servicemembers weren't being "charged" at all, they just didn't receive their "separate rations" pay.   The truth is, very few troops receive "separate rations" pay for meals they ate at military dining facilities.

The news of this "outraged" the Bash Bush Bus beyond words.  I wonder if the same people who were "outraged" over that now support Obama and his real plan to charge veterans for their VA "benefits"?

 

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top

The news of this "outraged" the Bash Bush Bus beyond words.  I wonder if the same people who were "outraged" over that now support Obama and his real plan to charge veterans for their VA "benefits"?
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Have you ever seen a war protester protest a war other than one fought between a liberal democracy and a tyranical dictatorship?

Or to be more blunt, no they will justify it when BO does it.

Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top

"Obama Drops Controversial Health Care Plan for Wounded Veterans" FOX NEWS 18 Mar 09:w00t:

I am glad that this got dropped.

I just hope that Congress does not hide this in some bill that has nothing to do with the VA.  That is the normal MO as of late.  Then BO can then claim he has nothing to do with it, just like what he is doing with the AIG bonuses.:|

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Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top

I just hope that Congress does not hide this in some bill that has nothing to do with the VA. That is the normal MO as of late. Then BO can then claim he has nothing to do with it, just like what he is doing with the AIG bonuses.
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Either way, Obama has exposed his true feelings about the military and vets.

Reply #10 from Stardock Forums Top

Either way, Obama has exposed his true feelings about the military and vets
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I think the majority if them knew what was coming.

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top

Did Barack's teleprompter come to it's senses?

I think Chauncey spoke his true mind with the vet's, and then his handlers had to tell him that was too cruel. Kind of like the special olympics comment.