Arctica

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070811/ap_on_re_ca/arctic_grab

anyone else besides me think this is stupid? their attempts to make claims wont be economically efficient for at least another 50 or so years, probably closer to a few centuries.

Denmark said scientists would embark Sunday on a monthlong expedition seeking evidence that the Lomonosov Ridge, a 1,240-mile underwater mountain range, is attached to the Danish territory of Greenland, making it a geological extension of the Arctic island.

That might allow the Nordic nation to stake a claim under a U.N. treaty that could stretch all the way the North Pole. Canada and Russia also claim the ridge.

and by that logic Turkey could claim the whole world (seeing as its all geological extensions of the same thing. not to mention, lets point out, the north pole is not a land mass. so, (in contradiction to my earlier statement) its the only part of the world that isnt a geological extension of the rest.
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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top
lol, dont worry schem, there wont be any ice left by the time they get through all the red tape

YAY FOR WATERWORLD!
Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top
With all this stupid global warming there wont BE an antarctica by the time they've established claims.
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Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top
thats what i just said lizard cept my way was funnier
Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top
....Antarctica is at the south pole. This is about the north pole.
Reply #5 from Sins Forums Top
lol, didnt even catch that kryo
Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top
....Antarctica is at the south pole. This is about the north pole.


Does that make the North Pole Arctica? If not why not?   

Oy Vey, if the Russians hadn't planted that stupid flag (what...was...the...point) it wouldn't have triggered this damn "last one to the North Pole is a rotten egg" rush.

Under Denmark's philosophy of geographical, therefore political, extension, France should own most of England (don't get any ideas France).




Reply #7 from Sins Forums Top
lol, france would surrender before they even declared war
Reply #8 from Sins Forums Top
....Antarctica is at the south pole. This is about the north pole.

I always make this mistake. I know the difference, but I still make the mistake
Oy Vey, if the Russians hadn't planted that stupid flag (what...was...the...point) it wouldn't have triggered this damn "last one to the North Pole is a rotten egg" rush.

hahaha...
too much hubris I guess?
Under Denmark's philosophy of geographical, therefore political, extension, France should own most of England (don't get any ideas France).
and Canada gets Russia, which gets kazhakastan, which gets China, which gets N. Korea, which gets S. Korea, which gets Japan which gets the Indonesian islands, which get australia, which gets antartica, all of which the US gets because we rock, but wait Mexico gets the US, etc. etc.
Reply #9 from Sins Forums Top
This is interesting... I see a WWIII coming.

Now wheres Jesus...
Reply #10 from Sins Forums Top

Now wheres Jesus...


He doesn't want to come to the party, because man has been so much time killing each other "in his name". For some reason he just does not approve.
Reply #11 from Sins Forums Top
and Canada gets Russia, which gets kazhakastan, which gets China, which gets N. Korea, which gets S. Korea, which gets Japan which gets the Indonesian islands, which get australia, which gets antartica, all of which the US gets because we rock, but wait Mexico gets the US, etc. etc.


  

because man has been so much time killing each other "in his name". For some reason he just does not approve.


All this fighting over little ol' me...er...him...

Reply #12 from Sins Forums Top
Jesus is not available at the moment so here's Jebus!
Jesus's hillbilly cousin.  
Reply #13 from Sins Forums Top
lol, WWIII over a giant block of ice
Reply #14 from Sins Forums Top
aha, but its MY block of ice!
Reply #15 from Sins Forums Top
We'll see *primes nuclear warhead(s)*
Reply #16 from Sins Forums Top
nuclear warfare is a BAAAAAD idea if your fighting for land, cuz that would mean you cant live in it for 100's of years (at least, not if you dont want to die anyway)
Reply #17 from Sins Forums Top
The Russian claim is that the area that they are claiming is an extension of the continental shelf. Under U.N. treaty if their claim is recognized they have the ownership right s to the oil reserves in that area.

They started making this claim back in I think it was the 70's when the United Nations treaty allowed countries, such as the USA to claim that the territorial waters of the country extended out to the continental shelf, not just 3 miles out. This effetely make the reach of U.S. waters 200 miles, thus forcing soviet Nuclear subs to be forced to move off the eastern seaboard. They are using the same logic to claim the rights to the sea bottom in the Arctic.

It is about the oil, not the ice!
Reply #18 from Sins Forums Top
aha, but its MY block of ice!


In your dreams Schem, I have already started construction on a Imperial Research Station on said block of ice. So if you have a problem with that talk to Jebus!!!
Reply #19 from Sins Forums Top
aha, but I've already brainwashed the local penguins to do my bidding, which will start with a full scale assault on your IRS! which one you dont know



(yesI know, polar bears not penguins, so stuff it.)
nuclear warfare is a BAAAAAD idea if your fighting for land, cuz that would mean you cant live in it for 100's of years (at least, not if you dont want to die anyway)

but they aren't fighting for land, they're fighting for teh oil UNDER the ice, so I guess nuclear warfare works for them
The Russian claim is that the area that they are claiming is an extension of the continental shelf. Under U.N. treaty if their claim is recognized they have the ownership right s to the oil reserves in that area.

They started making this claim back in I think it was the 70's when the United Nations treaty allowed countries, such as the USA to claim that the territorial waters of the country extended out to the continental shelf, not just 3 miles out. This effetely make the reach of U.S. waters 200 miles, thus forcing soviet Nuclear subs to be forced to move off the eastern seaboard. They are using the same logic to claim the rights to the sea bottom in the Arctic.

It is about the oil, not the ice!

but then huge portions of Europe share territorial waters, which only brings back the fighting. stupid aristocrats...
Reply #20 from Sins Forums Top
aha, but I've already brainwashed the local penguins to do my bidding, which will start with a full scale assault on your IRS! which one you dont know


I forsaw this and built my IRSs out of a metal that to pengiun eyes makes them look like the landscape. WUAHAHAHA, fear my IRSs!!! Now I just need some IRS storm trooper pengiuns, genetically engineered ones too, cause taking over native populations is so pre-clone era

but they aren't fighting for land, they're fighting for teh oil UNDER the ice, so I guess nuclear warfare works for them


Why would they target the Arctic though? I think theyd go for each other and see who dies first then harvest as much oil before the radiation is carried through the rest of the world by atmospheric winds.

but then huge portions of Europe share territorial waters, which only brings back the fighting. stupid aristocrats...


Stupid or smart?
Reply #21 from Sins Forums Top
Stupid or smart?


oooh, im sorry, the word we were looking for was SMELLY, you were so close though

Reply #22 from Sins Forums Top
MONTEBELLO, Quebec - Canada's prime minister is expected to assert his nation's claim to the fabled Northwest Passage through the warming, resource-rich Arctic at talks with President Bush that start Monday.

Canada claimed the passage in 1973 but competition to control the Arctic has intensified with global warming. Shrinking polar ice has raised the possibility of new shipping lanes and development of what one U.S. study suggested could be as much as 25 percent of the world's undiscovered oil and gas.

http://www.comcast.net/news/index.jsp?cat=GENERAL&fn=/2007/08/19/743084.html

let the war games begin!
Reply #23 from Sins Forums Top
its only a matter of time before there isn't land left to fight over... next people will claim the space directly over their countries and shot down anything that is violating their airspace.... the moon is protected by some sort of treaty, but Bush want to build a strictly U.S. base as a jumping ground from there to Mars could you imagine if a SINGLE country controled a WHOLE planet like Mars??  

it was said, i beleive by Einstein " I do not know how they will fight world war III but i know how they will fight world war IV, with sticks and stones."

in the end it really comes down to money and oil, then the person who wins is the guy who has the most sharp pointy things with the capablitly to drop those sometimes nuclear sharp pointy things close to you.   
Reply #24 from Sins Forums Top
Canada, in a war? Now thats something I would like to see

its only a matter of time before there isn't land left to fight over... next people will claim the space directly over their countries and shot down anything that is violating their airspace....


Actually we the Russians hold claim over space since we were there first!!!

SINGLE country controled a WHOLE planet like Mars??


Mars already belongs to the Russians Go find your own small red planet in another dimension!!
Reply #25 from Sins Forums Top
you mean russians lay stake to decaying orbits   
Mars already belongs to the Russians Go find your own small red planet in another dimension!!

*points at the flag with my smiling face*

I beg to differ.