A serious question to Stardock......

Are Stardock in a position to be able to create their own operating system? Is it financially viable? Would they ever consider it?

It would be great if someone like Stardock could give the public what they really want, which is an easy to use, attractive OS. I have no idea what it takes to create an OS, or what the pitfalls are regarding patent issues and taking on giants like Apple and Microsoft, but now would be the time to do it if it's possible. I know people will say that there is Linux etc, but I have tried those things and they always seem a little unprofessional to me. Stardock would do a much better job in my opinion.

So, is it possible? B[]

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Reply #2 Top

I would like to see this happen, an OS based on the Windows format, but entirely Stardock's own code, to hopefully prevent lawsuits from the likes of Apple.  It would be a huge undertaking, however, and I don't know that Stardock has the personnel to man/woman such a venture,.  I mean, it takes Microsoft 3 to 4 years and more, with thousands of staff at its disposal to develop a fully functional OS... and then there's the enormous cost to consider as well.  

As much as it would be nice, Bryan, I think maybe we're asking a little too much of Stardock at this point in time. :)

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Quoting starkers, reply 2
I mean, it takes Microsoft 3 to 4 years and more, with thousands of staff at its disposal to develop a fully functional OS
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Um....barely functional .... JAFOCHECK

 

Bryan.....there's miles of code involved in an OS, and yes, it's more than a shell....that bit's "easy".

The kernel is the issue...;)

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Quoting Jafo, reply 3
Um....barely functional
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Orright, until Win 7, that is... tho I do believe you're being facetious. :grin:

And sadly, with Win [butt ugly] 8 on the horizon... BOO!!! , it was the last fairly decent [passable] OS.... EVER!!!!! X(

Anyhow, my point was that Stardock, even to replicate even a poor facsimile of Win 8 [with or without Metro, which btw, we're not allowed to call it that anymore] would require a much larger staff than it has [and probably could afford], and capital that would equate to the annual budgets of several small countries.

 

 

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Are Stardock in a position to be able to create their own operating system?
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Let's start with the WC website and go from there...

Quoting Jafo, reply 3
The kernel is the issue...
End of Jafo's quote

And no, BoXXi. You can't have Bara.

 

 

Ooops... sorry, Jafo.

Thought you said, "The Colonel is the issue." ;)

Reply #6 Top

It would be an excellent idea IMO. Unfortunately both Apple and Microstuff would have a shit-fit! Imagine an OS that does everything it claims it can do with hands on support from its creators.

Reply #7 Top

Step 1- Make an O/S

Step 2- Make something so people can tolerate the O/S created in Step 1

I vote Stardock stays focused on Step 2.  Seems like a full-time job ;)

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It's not just the OS itself, you have to have developer support, support from other 3rd parties,etc.

Apple still barely scratches the surface when it comes to market share against Windows.  

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It would be well beyond our capability.

The best we'd be able to do is create our own custom Linux-based distribution.

As it stands, we're pretty happy with Windows.  Even Windows 8, minus "Metro" is pretty outstanding IMO.

The biggest worry we have remains the attempt to merge a desktop experience and a mobile experience into a one-size fits all solution complete with its own walled garden.

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Quoting Island, reply 8
Apple still barely scratches the surface when it comes to market share against Windows.
End of Island's quote

Not for much longer if Microsoft carry on the way they are right now...............

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Quoting Frogboy, reply 9
The best we'd be able to do is create our own custom Linux-based distribution.
End of Frogboy's quote

Even that would be a welcome addition to desktop users should MS not relent on this Metro UI thing.... and Stardock would have a vested interest to develop ObjectDesktop, etc, for Linux based PC's.  Yeah, I know it's unlikely to happen, but the dream is free.

Quoting Frogboy, reply 9
The biggest worry we have remains the attempt to merge a desktop experience and a mobile experience into a one-size fits all solution complete with its own walled garden.
End of Frogboy's quote

Yes, that is the concern I have, that MS seems determined we'll use Metro, like it or not. Win 8 has several advantages over Win 7, and I really like them, but I really do not want to have to deal with that interface at boot, have no access to a start button/menu or be dependent on MS' app store to gain access to useful tools not included in the OS.  These issues are what stand between me and purchasing a Win 8 license, so if MS remains intent on disabling all 3rd party apps that provide a Win 7-like experience, then there will be no sale.

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Quoting starkers, reply 11
that would be a welcome addition to desktop users should MS not relent on this Metro UI thing
End of starkers's quote

:thumbsup:

Quoting Frogboy, reply 9
Even Windows 8, minus "Metro" is pretty outstanding IMO.
End of Frogboy's quote

But you're not going to be able to do that, are you..... or... are you? 

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Quoting DrJBHL, reply 13

Quoting starkers, reply 11that would be a welcome addition to desktop users should MS not relent on this Metro UI thing




Quoting Frogboy, reply 9Even Windows 8, minus "Metro" is pretty outstanding IMO.

But you're not going to be able to do that, are you..... or... are you? 
End of DrJBHL's quote

Stay tuned. ;)

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Quoting Frogboy, reply 10
It would be well beyond our capability.

The best we'd be able to do is create our own custom Linux-based distribution.

As it stands, we're pretty happy with Windows.  Even Windows 8, minus "Metro" is pretty outstanding IMO.

The biggest worry we have remains the attempt to merge a desktop experience and a mobile experience into a one-size fits all solution complete with its own walled garden.
End of Frogboy's quote

 

What can the folks who develop/make games for Windows do in order to keep the walled garden from happening?  Metro doesn't concern me too much, the walled garden does.

 

 

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Quoting Draginol, reply 13

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 13
Quoting starkers, reply 11that would be a welcome addition to desktop users should MS not relent on this Metro UI thing




Quoting Frogboy, reply 9Even Windows 8, minus "Metro" is pretty outstanding IMO.

But you're not going to be able to do that, are you..... or... are you? 

Stay tuned.
End of Draginol's quote

You just gotta love SD.  :inlove:

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Quoting DrJBHL, reply 12

Quoting starkers, reply 11that would be a welcome addition to desktop users should MS not relent on this Metro UI thing




Quoting Frogboy, reply 9Even Windows 8, minus "Metro" is pretty outstanding IMO.

But you're not going to be able to do that, are you..... or... are you? 
End of DrJBHL's quote

"cough"---> llehscissalc <----- flip it that + a tweak and your completely living without the unnamed square thing...
If you cant live with it
good idea and topic btw

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Thanks for the reply Brad, I'll wait and see what you guys can do with Win8 before I switch to Macs........  B[]

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Quoting BoXXi, reply 17
Thanks for the reply Brad, I'll wait and see what you guys can do with Win8 before I switch to Macs....
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Good thinking, Bry, it could save you quite a bit of money at the end of the day.  If Stardock can enable booting directly to the desktop and restore the start button/menu in the final release of Win 8, it will be just like working in Win 7 only faster... 'cause underneath Metro there's a very similar and slick OS with a few advantages over its predecessor.

  I'm here hoping and with fingers crossed. :)

Reply #19 Top

Someone stick up for skinners by god!  There is no end to attractive posted here daily by many in the skinning community. As for easy to use, what is wrong with seven that is not user friendly?  Bottom line, people like change and new. So stardock has already accomplished the greatest idea yet, a software that tweaks to any individuals liking. Just a thought, if you do not know what goes into a skin, maybe some computer training is in order to make your computer os easier to use, just a thought. Happy with what I have, DoorTech1. X(

Reply #20 Top

1.) Design OS on paper

2.) Begin coding

3.) ???

4.) Profit!

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Windows 8 could be a huge benefit to Stardock. Many users are going to need additional programs to make W8 usable and no-one is better placed in the market than Stardock.

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But isn't Microsoft's idea of W8 that they get 30% (or whatever) of all money made from any W8 programs?

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When I tried to install Win8 it wouldn't...so after reading all the negative comments and seeing it almost in action I came to one conclusion. Label it as dirt and shove it under the rug for prosperity.

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Uvah, I think you mean Posterity....... :)

(It installed fast and flawlessly for me. Only good thing about it!)

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Quoting Uvah, reply 23
Label it as dirt and shove it under the rug for prosperity.
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Quoting BoXXi, reply 24
Uvah, I think you mean Posterity.......

(It installed fast and flawlessly for me. Only good thing about it!)
End of BoXXi's quote

Actually.... if one invests the $40 at the current rate of returns, in 1,000 years he would have $41.