FDA approves computer chip for humans (screw this)

People who get this are dumb as dirt...

from Elemental Forums


It's official. The FDA has approved the RFID chip for use in humans. Up till now it was only for use in pets and by a few very paranoid people who have had their kids chipped in case they get snatched. There have also been a few CEO's and other corporate types who have had the chip implanted as it's being used for electronic locks in some buildings. Here's the article on MSNBC.

FDA approves computer chip for humans

I'm sorry but there's no way in hell I'd get one of these. How many things have the FDA approved only to later find out they cause cancer or birth defects? Lots of things. How do they know the weak signals put off by the chip won't cause cancer ten or twenty years down the road? They don't, because they haven't done long term studies of that time-frame.

Apparently President Bush even had/has a ten year plan to get the majority of the US population implanted with these god awful little things. Here's a quote:

" The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services on Wednesday announced $139 million in grants to help make real President Bush’s push for electronic health records for most Americans within a decade. "

Medical records aren't stored on the chip its-self, but rather on a so called "secure" server. Here's a bit of truth for you. There's NO SUCH THING as a "Secure" server. If it's physically connected to the internet then it's possible it can be hacked, period. Just like with Sony and their violations of the consumer code that states a customers credit information should NEVER be stored on a server connected to the web. Instead customer information, credit card numbers and passwords, should be on a server that's NOT connected to the web except for when a customer makes a transaction. If Sony would have followed these laws they never would have lost people's credit information.

The other main concern is this chip DOES allow the person who has been chipped to be tracked at all times. Good luck trying to hide if you ever needed to. Now, one could argue that if you don't do anything wrong there's no reason for you to care whether or not you can be tracked by satellite. Well, Fuck That!!! I don't want uncle sam or some corporate douchebag being able to see where I am at every second of the day because I've been tagged like some cattle.

Either way, this type of future is now coming whether we want it or not. Eventually it will get to the point where you won't be able to live in our society without being chipped. If this goes over well you really think they won't decide to start doing transactions with it or start using it to access banking? Think again, because it WILL happen. Mark my words. It won't be over-night and it may take a decade, but if the next generation of kids is brought up to think being chipped is normal, in only two generations time every person in the US and eventually the civilized world will have one of these little bastards implanted into them.

Fear the future....Fight for your Privacy. Because if you don't, you won't have any. Just as our rights are being taken away with every new law passed. Just as the freedom of the internet is being taken away by corporate douchebags who want to make more money. Soon, there will be no freedom or privacy at all and no-one will care. That's not a future I want to be a part of....

 

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

:borg:

 

Reply #2 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Looks like Big Brother is here to stay. Time for a revolution methinks!

Sins of a Solar Empire II
Reply #3 from WinCustomize Forums Top

The future is upon us and it's scary.

 

Reply #4 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

I was so excited to hear about a computer chip to implant until I saw that it's only an RFID tag.  This is bordering on false advertising as far as I can tell.  I wanted my Borg chip.

 

:cylon:   (A cylon smiley?  Sure.  close enough.) 

 

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Reply #5 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Me? I'm gonna need one of them pretty darned soon, RavenX.  ;)

Seriously, though: How about dangerous criminals?

How about the kiddy molesters? How about one of those RFID chips that detonates if they get close to a school or playground?

Anyone but one of them gonna vote against that?

Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top

I would vote against it even in the case of prisoners. Once you've paid your time, you're free. But even if they ignore what I say, I'll still be damned if they're going to touch me with one of those. How can a government be held responsible to the needs of a people that it can cleanse away with such ease that there is no fear of the mob? I say we must make revolution to preserve the right to revolt. They start tagging; we start bagging.

Reply #7 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 5
Seriously, though: How about dangerous criminals?

They'll only be implanted once they become a dangerous criminal. Not much of a consolation to the victim/victims family is it?

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 5
How about the kiddy molesters?

A very delicate issue in this day and age. I don't doubt there are innocent people who have been accused and convicted of being a child molester, when they aren't one. What about them?

Regardless, if a chip can be put in, it can be taken out.

Reply #8 from WinCustomize Forums Top

All well and good but the implications and the opportunity for abuse IMO far outweigh the need. There are electronic anklets for that, the kind that can't be removed. Implanting chips in people is definitely not the way to go.

Reply #9 from Elemental Forums Top

I'm glad, my old fashion ways of stalking have started to really wear me down, almost not worth it. 

Reply #10 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 5
Seriously, though: How about dangerous criminals?

Problem is that once a line is established it has an annoying tendency to get pushed in.  At some point someone would be saying "Hey, what about those people with speeding tickets, they're dangerous too." "What about those people that don't think like 'We' do, they're obviously a threat to 'national security'."

Reply #11 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Y'all know how I feel about the Bible, but this is just too "mark of the beast" for me.  We all know how identities can be stolen, and we all know how damaged credit reports and such can destroy a life -- I just don't think we need one more piece of verification that can ruin a life.  If credit cards and such can be hacked, so can these things.

Reply #12 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting Starcandy, reply 7
Regardless, if a chip can be put in, it can be taken out.

Depends. I'm not talking about just under the skin on one's shoulder...

Quoting Starcandy, reply 7
I don't doubt there are innocent people who have been accused and convicted of being a child molester, when they aren't one. What about them?

Then, since they'll not repeat, there's no real problem. If ultimately proven innocent, it could be removed. At the expense of the state.

Quoting Starcandy, reply 7
Not much of a consolation to the victim/victims family is it?

Preventing the future ones is.

Quoting Draakjacht, reply 6
Once you've paid your time, you're free.

Not SVU folks.

 

 

 

Reply #13 from Elemental Forums Top

I'm just glad we're moving away from little thugs on the street stealing my identity, to big thugs in Washington stealing my identity.

Reply #14 from Elemental Forums Top


Yeah you could implant a barcode chip into your arm... or you know get a health/identity card or dog tag. This seems like it would only be useful if you have serious health problems and constantly end up passed out and naked in strange places.

Reply #15 from WinCustomize Forums Top

And now I find myself thinking of a different angle:  Somewhere somebody is hard at work trying to come up with a plan to feed banner ads into these things.  And think how much more money we could make with targeted marketing if we could track all the stores each person went into.  And oh my, think of the spam potential.  Now exactly whose campaigns do I need to contribute to to make all this happen... :d

Reply #16 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Gives new meaning to having a chip on your shoulder. o_O

Reply #17 from Elemental Forums Top

This is news?   The FDA approved computer chips for humans almost a decade ago, and ADSX stock soared to like $4 a share on the news.  Now ADSX got bought out and I don't know what became of the chip.  This must be FDA approval for another chip.

Reply #18 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting DaveRI, reply 15
And now I find myself thinking of a different angle:  Somewhere somebody is hard at work trying to come up with a plan to feed banner ads into these things.  And think how much more money we could make with targeted marketing if we could track all the stores each person went into.  And oh my, think of the spam potential.  Now exactly whose campaigns do I need to contribute to to make all this happen...

Very Philip K Dick.

 

This whole things strikes me as an invasion of privacy.  The horrid mistake of giving up liberty for security, giving away rights out of fear. "Those that sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither" - Ben Franklin 

Reply #19 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 12
Quoting Starcandy,
reply 7
Regardless, if a chip can be put in, it can be taken out.

Depends. I'm not talking about just under the skin on one's shoulder...

Fair enough, but if a person wants it out, they'll get it out.

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 12
Then, since they'll not repeat, there's no real problem. If ultimately proven innocent, it could be removed. At the expense of the state.

You don't see any problem with an innocent person being convicted of child molesting and having a chip implanted in them? What if they ultimately can't prove their innocence? Should it still detonate if they get too close to a school or playground? They don't have to go near a school or playground anyway. Wasn't there a little girl murdered over there not too long ago? She was left by her mother with a 'friend' who killed her. But it turned out the little girl's mother and her 'friend' lived on a trailer park that has room for 24 trailers. 15 of those trailers belonged to convicted sex offenders.

Reply #20 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting Starcandy, reply 19
the little girl's mother and her 'friend' lived on a trailer park that has room for 24 trailers. 15 of those trailers belonged to convicted sex offenders.

And any online search would have revealed that fact... maybe they could have asked the police "Is it safe to live there?" Maybe they should have?

Quoting Starcandy, reply 19
You don't see any problem with an innocent person being convicted of child molesting and having a chip implanted in them?

No system is perfect. If the person's innocent, then what's the harm? No real chance of being being placed somewhere he/she wasn't... in fact, would show the person's innocent of any acts, wouldn't it?

 

Quoting Starcandy, reply 19
Fair enough, but if a person wants it out, they'll get it out.

And when it's found missing... back to jail.

 

 

Reply #21 from WinCustomize Forums Top

This just brings to mind the old saying, 'Be careful for what you wish for' or not. 

We all want the benefits of technology and the good that it holds, unfortunately nothing comes without the ability to misuse it.  :S

Reply #22 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 20
No system is perfect. If the person's innocent, then what's the harm?

Because the term "innocent" or "guilty" is not as black-and-white as it may seem, especially in an election year.  Because "child molester" isn't always some grizzly old pedophile diddling kindergartners; sometimes it's 16-year-olds having their first love with a 15-year-old, and that's a long damn time to be wearing a friggin' chip.  It's hard enough to get a job once someone who doesn't have the money privileged people do so they can get adequate representation gets accused of these things, now you want them to wear a chip, too? 

Reply #23 from WinCustomize Forums Top

If it could prevent another child being molested by them? You bet.

And, when the 16 year olds did what they did, it wasn't without knowing the Statutory rape/age of legal consent was it? It's certainly on the television enough for everyone to know about...

Reply #24 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting k10w3, reply 22
now you want them to wear a chip, too?

Let's not forget the "sex offenders" who executed the time-honored tradition of mooning, or took a leak in public.

Reply #25 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 20
No system is perfect. If the person's innocent, then what's the harm?

If you've been convicted of child molesting, your life is pretty much over. You're certainly going to have a hard time getting away from that conviction.