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A typology of players by main DG

A typology of players by main DG

(a quasi-scientific study)

Disclaimer: It's not a scientific article. This post inludes some subjective observations and sarcastic remarks. If you cannot stomach it, stay away instead of flaming me.

I. UB. Two distinct subtypes: (1) about 90% are rude arrogant egotistic semi-noobs that have no map awareness, play no other DG, and are allergic to words like 'strategy' and 'tactics' (they just Spit > click on target, so why bother?) -- these guys usually play BotF Spit/Ooze hybrid (though I've seen BotS players that fall into this category, too); (2) a small caste of elite UB players, that are usually quite intelligent (they can actually talk, ffs!), and play this game mathematically -- they understand playing a very good UB is hard and requires precision and flawless calculations. E. g.: Zen_God can be a nice example, though he cheats on his UB with a speed Rook! Hah!

II. Oak. Well, this is the most annoying player type, in my opinion. Oak is easy to abuse. Too many 'gay' tactics, too many half-exploits. Also, his skill set is as close to perfection as it gets. It draws a certain type of players, to be sure. Independent of personal skill level, I think I've never seen a dedicated Oak player (= a guy that mains Oak, not just plays him) that wasn't in his asshole mode at least 50% of the time. E. g.: Think Wip_ or MacLoover. 

III. Rook. The exact opposite. I love these guys. Usually quite phlegmatic and cold-blooded. That's why Zen plays speed Rook, I guess ;) Seriously, they are all somehow restrained, or at least take it easy. E. g.: I suspect (not sure, let's see if my typology works practically) Cow is one of those guys originally. Ppapanek is also a good example.

IV. Erebus. An interesting type. I think dedicated Erbs are the most personally skilled of all top-tier DG players, perhaps because he requires heavy microing and precise Mist timings. The best of those guys are somewhat similar to an 'elite UB' sub-type. Mathematical precision and intelligent judgment. E. g.: Maybe Renz can serve as an example, though he doesn't play much Erb these days, I think.

V. Sedna. I'll try to be objective here. Sedna draws a certain type of crowd... Let's say, people that love to play their game a bit too intelligently. Thorough (sometimes, too thorough) people with great love for theory and numbers. But the fact is, I've never seen a dumb player that mains (or even plays!) Sedna. She's just that kind of DG, probably. E. g.: Hedgie, of course.

VI. QoT. QoTists are similar to Sednaists, but usually a bit more excentric. Maybe it's even the same type, I don't know. Let's just say, dedicated QoTs and Sednas are hugely different from the rest of the crowd. We should also mention their towering intellect, blah-blah-blah... O:) E. g.: LORD-ORION.

VII. TB. A strange crowd. Two distinct sub-types again, very similar to those I've mentioned while analazying UBs: (1) Fire TB players are not as bad as non-elite UBs, but probably close second -- maybe because playing a Fire TB is so ridiculously easy. In short, they don't strike me as intelligent or nice people at all! A player playing a DG with high damage and speed, but very low hp and no freaking interrupt clearly has... issues. Oh, they are also dead conservative, always stack speed and never switch forms. They also tend to type a lot into All chat. Haha, take this, Pacov! }:)  (2) Hybrid or Ice TB players. They are great. Smart, skilled, polite players not afraid of trying new things/setups/builds. E. g.: Think of Thundercles. Think of him, goddamit!

VIII. Occ. Honestly, I don't like Occ players. Occ is one of the, or maybe THE, most primitive DGs to play. As long as you don't overextend horribly when oom, and target your butt-jumps/chain lightnings/exploding balls to any point roughly within 20 y radius (= aren't totally blind) to hit everyone for 65765675 damage -- congrats, you may consider yourself a solid Occ. No precision required, no creative thinking involved (no reason to think, as most of his skills don't work w/o Uberfix). How can you get excited about such a character is a mystery to me. E. g.: While I can think of some good examples, I won't post them here.

IX-X. Reg & DA. (1) Kill-happy n00bz, or (2) players so old and tired of this game, they prefer to handicap themselves either for early (DA) or for late (Reg) game. E. g.: The only serious player that mains Reg is Darkliath. She claims she's just not so good with other DGs, but I suspect she's simply tired of playing upper-tier DGs and dearly loves challenge (look at her win % and compare it to her skill).

 

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Reply #26 Top

good players don't smurf?

Quoting OMG_pacov, reply 30

who is I_hyta and why do we care about him

Winner of the I know who I_hyta award goes to...

PACOV!!!!

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good players don't smurf?

Reply #27 Top

Quoting OMG_pacov, reply 27

I_hyta - I'd love to see you v zen in a team game (eg one where some jackass isn't claiming to feed your team kills after he dies a few times due to being a weak, 
End of OMG_pacov's quote

 

I think we should set this up.

 

I see why you say those things, and from your view they're completely correct. But if you look at the games me and zen play, and who we usually play with, there is a big difference. Zen plays alot with people he knows ( not saying every game ) but most of the time. This allows him to become more comfortable and be more agressive. If i play with say.. brasher and robertmunch, you'll see my ub is 10x more agressive then usual. Because of the same reasons you posted above. In a 1v1 match, it would go to whoever didn't screw up first. I've been trying to diff builds for ub vs ub 1v1 on cata, and I've found 1 that beats botf everytime, and 1 that is comparable. BUT, i used to 1v1 allll the time, and i will almost always pick a general, so it throws of my 1v1 ub skills a bit. 

 

You're explanation is spot on though, besides the fact I'm still the best ub =p. But apparently my type have big egos soooo..

 

* side note .... I haven't played akumrise is a minute. That was before i got better. Just saying. 

 

* side note 2 ... Zen ( im guessing ) will usually get narmoths? 

If so i've built my build specifically to beat a matched ub who picks up narmoths. considering we both are the same level and have the same amount of gold. 

* i keep adding things i know... BUT zen may possibly beat me because im too busy typing about how i ganked both his teammates, and bragging about it. MY Huge UB ego again, apologies. 

 

 

as stated above .. I think we should set this up. 

Reply #28 Top

Quoting OMG__IN1, reply 34
 ppap is from Korea
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is this guy heros -temp- ? 

I bet it is! 

Reply #29 Top

Quoting awuffleablehedgie, reply 28
who is I_hyta and why do we care about him? He obv is not the best UB in the game. 
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I'm going to rape your hedgehog if you doubt what my HUGE "UB EGO" tells me is right.  :thumbsup:

Reply #30 Top

lol

ITT UBs claiming to have created something unique. 

Reply #31 Top

is this guy heros -temp- ? 

I bet it is! 

He doesn't admit it! :) He may be PrinceMinardi or 2Nana, for all I know. He's definitely not TSK-Rin, though :) I guess we have no other choice but to assume he's one of those Korean veterans, and to respect his privacy in that matter.

Reply #32 Top

ITT UBs claiming to have created something unique. 

I have created something unique! O:)   A squishy SoP pure Ooze build that gets Spit instead of BW at 16+. It's only good vs unsuspecting BotS users, however. But really really good in that niche.

Reply #33 Top

Yes a pure ooze build has never been proposed before.

It's a quite heavily modified Cow's pure Ooze. Different favor, slightly different gear and skill progression.
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http://forums.impulsedriven.com/352763/

hi Cow is your old name Thrandiul?

Reply #34 Top

hi Cow is your old name Thrandiul?

Well, my sources of inspiration were: (1) Cow's anthology of builds; (2) Iz's no-helm hybrid UB. Does it matter who copyrighted the pure Ooze first? What I say is no one plays pure Ooze UB with Symbol of Purity and late Spit. Well, maybe Hedgie tried a hybrid UB w/ SoP, I dunno. Sounds like a definitely Hedgian idea. 

Reply #35 Top

Quoting doggu, reply 45

Yes a pure ooze build has never been proposed before.

It's a quite heavily modified Cow's pure Ooze. Different favor, slightly different gear and skill progression.
http://forums.impulsedriven.com/352763/

hi Cow is your old name Thrandiul?
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That build is garbage.

 

Reply #36 Top

Okay, I think the thread is more-or-less purged of our cute little dialogue. Let it stay this way. 

Reply #37 Top

I think we should set this up.
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there is the 2v2 tourney next weekend, you know.  zen and I are a registered team.  You and bobby or brasher could join up.  2v2 is a little bit different than 3v3, of course, but it still might be fun. 

Reply #38 Top

Man!, I've been flamed by a bunch of players on this thread for not "mastering" their demigods. They are nonetheless excellent players IMHO but they tend to take this game too seriously. Does anybody play this game for the fun of it anymore?

Reply #39 Top

Well, playing for fun is no excuse for sucking. Unless you are an Erebus :) And no, I don't think you suck, you are a competent player.

Reply #40 Top

Does anybody play this game for the fun of it anymore?
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I assume everyone that plays DG plays it for fun.  I think some enjoy the more competitive side of things and that's what makes it fun.  I know I would not enjoy it if 100% of the time if I was never challenged or if someone on my team just fed over and over. 

But then there are other games, like the batshite crazy ai mod game I played (that like 10 people tried to join.... whodathunk?) that I really didn't care what the teams were.  Just wanted to have fun.  Being up against 2 ai regs on levi with the other team having another reg was sooo painful.  I'd walk out  and be down to 40% hp mid/late game.  But a game like that, sure, I try to do my best, but I don't really take it seriously - its just for fun.

Anyway, if I'm playing "seriously" and have someone on my team that's supposed to be reasonably experienced, I get a little pissed from time to time if the are feeding or not doing their part.  I, however, generally get that tearing someone a new one because I didn't like their performance generally doesn't make them a better player.  Certainly not to say I don't bitch from time to time when frustrated, though.

Reply #41 Top

Quoting a_nooblet, reply 38
Man!, I've been flamed by a bunch of players on this thread for not "mastering" their demigods. They are nonetheless excellent players IMHO but they tend to take this game too seriously. Does anybody play this game for the fun of it anymore?
End of a_nooblet's quote

Imo the only thing left in this game is fun. Getting a fair, competitive game with all pros on any given night is in DG's past. At the moment it comes down to who has the weaker teammates in terms of skill, that determines the winner. I have lost most interest in DG because of this. I miss the glory days when I could play vs Renz and Mcshane with Rawrrr as my teammate every night of the week. That was my favorite time in DG.

Reply #42 Top

But then there are other games, like the batshite crazy ai mod game I played (that like 10 people tried to join.... whodathunk?) that I really didn't care what the teams were.  Just wanted to have fun.  Being up against 2 ai regs on levi with the other team having another reg was sooo painful.  I'd walk out  and be down to 40% hp mid/late game.  But a game like that, sure, I try to do my best, but I don't really take it seriously - its just for fun.

Yeah, those Haji and Adar guys were fucking amazing. They could tank, carry, push towers, whatever. Me and LO just supported them a bit. I'm looking forward to playing with Haji and Adar again!

Reply #43 Top

Quoting OMG_pacov, reply 37


there is the 2v2 tourney next weekend, you know.  zen and I are a registered team.  You and bobby or brasher could join up.  2v2 is a little bit different than 3v3, of course, but it still might be fun. 
End of OMG_pacov's quote

Rob won't play in the tournaments, from my understanding. Brasher isn't the best at 2v2's, more of a 3v3 guy. I'll be asking doggu and illuminati though. We'll see whats up. 

Reply #44 Top

Quoting OMG__IN1, reply 31
 

 He's definitely not TSK-Rin, though
End of OMG__IN1's quote

 

Well of course not. We can blame those idiots who jacked his name for that.

 

Thank you: Tsk-daddymandingo, TSK-lordofring, tsk- al_og_al_ whatever the fuck,tsk_kitty007,Tsk_roooaar,tsk_kobzos etc etc.

For pissing off one of the most dominating players in the game. 

 

EUROPE SIT DOWN

Reply #45 Top


"But then there are other games, like the batshite crazy ai mod game I played (that like 10 people tried to join.... whodathunk?) that I really didn't care what the teams were.  Just wanted to have fun.  Being up against 2 ai regs on levi with the other team having another reg was sooo painful.  I'd walk out  and be down to 40% hp mid/late game.  But a game like that, sure, I try to do my best, but I don't really take it seriously - its just for fun."

when are you playing another one of those?? I will like to play!!

Reply #46 Top

when are you playing another one of those?? I will like to play!!
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Just did one last night... quite strange.  Sat in a lobby with eldon for like 10 minutes shooting the shite... then i said screw it, let's just toss on the ai mod and give it a go (been wanting to do some 1v1 with ais on each team games).  Anyway, as soon as I pop the mod on, my lobby fills up crazy fast.  We get like 6.  I tack on some ais.  Then 2 more join.  I tack on more ais.  Then more join... then some leave (don't think doggu can play reliably in 4v4 with connections to some folks).  Anyway, we end up with a 5v5 (3 humans + 2 nightmare regs vs 4 humans + 1 normal ai).  It was pretty chaotic, actually.  You never really know who the ai regs are going to target and if they both pick you while you are fighting... ouch. 

All of that said, I'll probably host a few of these tonight.  They are fun, mixing it up types of games.  Nothing I'd want to do all the time, of course, but good for a change up.

Rob won't play in the tournaments, from my understanding. Brasher isn't the best at 2v2's, more of a 3v3 guy. I'll be asking doggu and illuminati though. We'll see whats up
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Gotcha.  Yeah - 2v2 can be a different beast, especially on the competitive level.  I was quite good at 3v3 and then started trying 2v2s and was pretty so-so at first.  You get some games under your belt at the competitive level and it can be a lot of fun.  That said, I don't enjoy 1v1s and some don't enjoy 2v2s, so to each his own.  Hope you can lock down a teammate.  I'm playing this practice tourney for fun, but I will certainly try my best to win. 

Getting a fair, competitive game with all pros on any given night is in DG's past.
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I disagree here.  I've had plenty of fun/competitive games recently.  And besides, I'd be very surprised if we didn't see several folks back when the cash tourneys start up again.  The trick is to actually continue to play demigod, cow.  :)

Reply #47 Top

I will like to start hosting games as the ones pacov mentioned, with titles such as:

-The Queens and Queers game (reg and qot only)

-The all reg game (reg only of course, a classic!)

-4v4 the terminator (2 players, 2 ai vs 2 players, 2 ai, with the ai mod of course)

and any other mixup that stays away from the 3v3 oak, erb, ub boring match 

Reply #48 Top

Yeah - I'll join ya if I see some of these up.  I don't really care about the dg selections, just want some ai's thrown in to mix things up.

Reply #49 Top

Seriously, why no one ever hosts XvX Random Gen games? The difference in quality between best gen (Oak) and worst gen (QoT) is not as huge as that between top and bottom tier assassins... Was in one of those recently (it was a spontaneous decision to go all generals on both teams), and it was a lot of fun. It was QoT/Erb/Occ vs Sed/Oak/Occ, with me as QoT. Naturally, it was much more strategic and defensive than Random Ass games, but still plenty of action, just of different kind, plus those monk hordes are hilarious.

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1626274/player/121483/

Reply #50 Top

All random General!!! wow imagine if everyone goes minion build, that is something espectacular to see.