A typology of players by main DG

(a quasi-scientific study)

Disclaimer: It's not a scientific article. This post inludes some subjective observations and sarcastic remarks. If you cannot stomach it, stay away instead of flaming me.

I. UB. Two distinct subtypes: (1) about 90% are rude arrogant egotistic semi-noobs that have no map awareness, play no other DG, and are allergic to words like 'strategy' and 'tactics' (they just Spit > click on target, so why bother?) -- these guys usually play BotF Spit/Ooze hybrid (though I've seen BotS players that fall into this category, too); (2) a small caste of elite UB players, that are usually quite intelligent (they can actually talk, ffs!), and play this game mathematically -- they understand playing a very good UB is hard and requires precision and flawless calculations. E. g.: Zen_God can be a nice example, though he cheats on his UB with a speed Rook! Hah!

II. Oak. Well, this is the most annoying player type, in my opinion. Oak is easy to abuse. Too many 'gay' tactics, too many half-exploits. Also, his skill set is as close to perfection as it gets. It draws a certain type of players, to be sure. Independent of personal skill level, I think I've never seen a dedicated Oak player (= a guy that mains Oak, not just plays him) that wasn't in his asshole mode at least 50% of the time. E. g.: Think Wip_ or MacLoover. 

III. Rook. The exact opposite. I love these guys. Usually quite phlegmatic and cold-blooded. That's why Zen plays speed Rook, I guess ;) Seriously, they are all somehow restrained, or at least take it easy. E. g.: I suspect (not sure, let's see if my typology works practically) Cow is one of those guys originally. Ppapanek is also a good example.

IV. Erebus. An interesting type. I think dedicated Erbs are the most personally skilled of all top-tier DG players, perhaps because he requires heavy microing and precise Mist timings. The best of those guys are somewhat similar to an 'elite UB' sub-type. Mathematical precision and intelligent judgment. E. g.: Maybe Renz can serve as an example, though he doesn't play much Erb these days, I think.

V. Sedna. I'll try to be objective here. Sedna draws a certain type of crowd... Let's say, people that love to play their game a bit too intelligently. Thorough (sometimes, too thorough) people with great love for theory and numbers. But the fact is, I've never seen a dumb player that mains (or even plays!) Sedna. She's just that kind of DG, probably. E. g.: Hedgie, of course.

VI. QoT. QoTists are similar to Sednaists, but usually a bit more excentric. Maybe it's even the same type, I don't know. Let's just say, dedicated QoTs and Sednas are hugely different from the rest of the crowd. We should also mention their towering intellect, blah-blah-blah... O:) E. g.: LORD-ORION.

VII. TB. A strange crowd. Two distinct sub-types again, very similar to those I've mentioned while analazying UBs: (1) Fire TB players are not as bad as non-elite UBs, but probably close second -- maybe because playing a Fire TB is so ridiculously easy. In short, they don't strike me as intelligent or nice people at all! A player playing a DG with high damage and speed, but very low hp and no freaking interrupt clearly has... issues. Oh, they are also dead conservative, always stack speed and never switch forms. They also tend to type a lot into All chat. Haha, take this, Pacov! }:)  (2) Hybrid or Ice TB players. They are great. Smart, skilled, polite players not afraid of trying new things/setups/builds. E. g.: Think of Thundercles. Think of him, goddamit!

VIII. Occ. Honestly, I don't like Occ players. Occ is one of the, or maybe THE, most primitive DGs to play. As long as you don't overextend horribly when oom, and target your butt-jumps/chain lightnings/exploding balls to any point roughly within 20 y radius (= aren't totally blind) to hit everyone for 65765675 damage -- congrats, you may consider yourself a solid Occ. No precision required, no creative thinking involved (no reason to think, as most of his skills don't work w/o Uberfix). How can you get excited about such a character is a mystery to me. E. g.: While I can think of some good examples, I won't post them here.

IX-X. Reg & DA. (1) Kill-happy n00bz, or (2) players so old and tired of this game, they prefer to handicap themselves either for early (DA) or for late (Reg) game. E. g.: The only serious player that mains Reg is Darkliath. She claims she's just not so good with other DGs, but I suspect she's simply tired of playing upper-tier DGs and dearly loves challenge (look at her win % and compare it to her skill).

 

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Reply #1 Top

Interesting.  I've noticed something similar myself.

I've been studying my motives for maining occ.  I think it is because I know I need distance (ie, not melee, large range for skill use) and a quick escape (ie, butt jump).  I need these two things because I am not yet competent enough to survive without them, given the dearth of true noob/mid games.  This, of course, reinforces your claim that occ is primitive. 

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He is, unfortunately. Less so in tourney/Uberfix games, I admit. Now, I'm not going to say Shane or Cow play Occ primitively. But that's really a case when great players make a dull character shine.

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Lol!

 

You really synthetized ub players!

But...I don't get why your avatar is an UB.

oO

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Obviously you've never seen me play ub. You'd get SO frustrated by the many times a game i live through a fight with only 1-500 hp left, and right after say "next time pull our your calculator bro". To be completly honest, I've only seen one better ub then me, and thats only one game - akumrise. 

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hehe, nice post :thumbsup:

I guess i fall under the "...players so old and tired of this game, they prefer to handicap themselves playing Reg" category :| . I do love Reg though, love the "walking on the razor's edge" feeling of playing him, as with (to a lesser extent) BotS Hybrid TB, EoM Rook, ...

I used to main Ereb, one of the funniest DGs to drive crazy the whole enemy team with early portal ninja-steals, sneaky Batswarm-Bite kills, etc. I do get offense when people mention Renz instead of me when talking Ereb... ^_^'

Gotta say the phrase "The only serious player that mains Reg is Darkliath" kinda hurted my pride ^_^   too, but i guess that's what you get for barely playing 1-2 games for weeks...

Ah well..... :waaaa:

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oh... UBs and their egos

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Obviously you've never seen me play ub. You'd get SO frustrated by the many times a game i live through a fight with only 1-500 hp left, and right after say "next time pull our your calculator bro". To be completly honest, I've only seen one better ub then me, and thats only one game - akumrise. 

Akum is very very good, yes. Never seen you in action, and now that we are more or less at peace (kudos to abornexile/inexorable -- the only other thing I like about that guy is he obviously appreciates anagrams), I'd love to if I catch you online (I think you are online during my early morning hours/your late night sometimes).

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But...I don't get why your avatar is an UB.

Well, I'd prefer to put an XXX-rated poster of Sedna and QoT there, but DG concept artists did not share one with the wide public. Sadly...

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I used to main Ereb, one of the funniest DGs to drive crazy the whole enemy team with early portal ninja-steals, sneaky Batswarm-Bite kills, etc. I do get offense when people mention Renz instead of me when talking Ereb... ^_^' ]

I'm too young to remember that, Nom, sorry :(

Gotta say the phrase "The only serious player that mains Reg is Darkliath" kinda hurted my pride   too, but i guess that's what you get for barely playing 1-2 games for weeks...

I've seen your Reg and it was superb. But I assumed you play more or less all DGs, minus support chicks, according to the current mood. Had no idea you consider Reg your main :)

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And you're about right, it's just me and my pride, pure non-sense... ;P

I don't really consider Reg (or any else) my main, but i pretty much stopped enjoying other DGs and "like" the challenge of playing Reg, as you very well put it.

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Haha great post. Lot of truth there.  Im fairly new to the game but my fav dg is reg and its not because i want to handicap my self but because it is so easy to dominate early and mid game with reg. If you manage to do this u usually get a gg before late game wud start so no point talking about regs late game. And im not talking about noob games mind you. --( 3v3 only)

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yay another circle jerk thread...

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I just played a game as EoM UB, analyze that.

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Im gonna cut you some slack OMG__IN1 since you started playing around the time I had to leave the game. But putting reg and DA as one character profile thats just noobs or bored people really hurts me man. I guess though i am just about the only person that truely mained DA so there really is no profile of a DA player out there anymore. If i ever get back in this game hopefully you will have reason to give DA his own slot.

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max u gotta admit tho that da is one of the hardest dg to play with but i agree that he can be the deadliest assasin out there if played correctly. i mean that combo attack just hurts like hell.

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Hey ^_^

Well I think Orcun or some other better regulus player (Nomilarac, renzokuken) deserved to be mentioned instead of me (I might be visible only because I pretty much always play this same demigod, but... still haven't mained it to a good level).

As for DA. Yeah. Come to the game Maxsteel and show people what DA is made of :grin:

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VI. QoT. QoTists are similar to Sednaists, but usually a bit more excentric. Maybe it's even the same type, I don't know. Let's just say, dedicated QoTs and Sednas are hugely different from the rest of the crowd. We should also mention their towering intellect, blah-blah-blah... E. g.: LORD-ORION.

 

Hang on, but i play LE!

 

exxcentric != eccentric (name vs word)

 

just thought i would help!!

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I dont get a special section for worst noob abuse rants ever?

Reply #19 Top

I dont get a special section for worst noob abuse rants ever?

Come on! Doggu is the undeniable leader in this respect. That's why I think pairing the guy with an AI is not such a bad idea, after all.

Im gonna cut you some slack OMG__IN1 since you started playing around the time I had to leave the game. But putting reg and DA as one character profile thats just noobs or bored people really hurts me man. I guess though i am just about the only person that truely mained DA so there really is no profile of a DA player out there anymore. If i ever get back in this game hopefully you will have reason to give DA his own slot.

Sure, Max, I'd love to add you to tyhe classification. Indeed, I joined the community by the time you left, so this glaring omission is somewhat understandable :)

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Quoting doggu, reply 12
yay another circle jerk thread...
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oh, doggu, you're so hard

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I do get offense when people mention Renz instead of me when talking Ereb
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no, he is the sickest ereb out there!
If i ever get back in this game hopefully you will have reason to give DA his own slot.
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true!
Well I think Orcun or some other better regulus player
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orcun was the best reg in his times. However, dark you are awesome too!

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To be completly honest, I've only seen one better ub then me, and thats only one game - akumrise.
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I completely respect that what you said has been your experience, but I really could not disagree more based on recent game play.  I have never been all that impressed with akumrise.  That you feel wowed by him makes me question my opinion.  I actually give much more respect to your ub.  Anyway, read on...

I_hyta - I'd love to see you v zen in a team game (eg one where some jackass isn't claiming to feed your team kills after he dies a few times due to being a weak, ego inflated player - I'm not referring to aborn at all... surely not.  Really - I can't see a reason to reference the best player in DG here).  I think the 2 of you are quite solid as ub's, but I think zen edges you out a little bit.  The way I see things is like this - zen is better than you in a 1v1.  Or even in a team game early - he is quite ballsy (more so than you) and will chase pretty much anyone to the grave if he knows he can count on a teammate for snipe, etc, or just does the math and knows he can pull it off. I actually don't know anyone more ballsy than zen with ub.... and I think its because he takes into account that he's ub and calculates the damage the other team could do or his team could do to assist.  Its generally spot on.  Plus he generally gears up with the focus on snagging a 1v1 kill (eg you might think you are about to kill him early, but then he suddenly pops a sigil or a pot.  You, on the other hand, seem a little bit weaker in that aspect in early 1v1 opts.  HOWEVER, you are slightly quicker to respond for kill ops on team situations.  In my few games with you, you were pretty much batting 100 every time I'd set someone up for a kill. I'd drop someone a bit or kite them in and you'd make an appearance at just the right time.  Zen might take a half second or so longer to tp in for gank. Honestly, its not even a criticism against you, I_htya.  It's just 2 slightly different styles.  You will bully when you can, but zen god can bully more.  You can tp in for ganks better than zen can. 

So, what I described is really all about how your teammates play.  I think zen is generally better with a so-so team than you are.  And I think you are a little better if you have a solid team backing you up (as your map awareness is quite solid).  

in1 - to be fair - if you are calling out folks by name for crap, I assume you realize you will get some flaming, ofc.  :)

Gotta say the phrase "The only serious player that mains Reg is Darkliath" kinda hurted my pride
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yeah - take it from the guy that started the tier 1, tier 2 demigod thread.  I've hurt more than a few people's pride with that crap.  Side note - if I did reopen that thread, the tier 1/tier 2 charts would be very different. The thing to understand is that folks that I thought were so-so have very likely improved.  What I don't get is that folks can't look at that, what, 4-6 month old post, and believe that opinions may have changed in that they are better than estimated.  At any rate, it all comes down to a players opinion.  I think X person is great while someone else may think X person is so-so.  I base my opinion on my experience and you on yours. 

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who is I_hyta and why do we care about him? He obv is not the best UB in the game. 

Reply #24 Top

Pfft,

I am ofc the best ub, reg, da, tb, oculus, sedna, oak, erebus, qot, and rook.

watchuuuu talking about???

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who is I_hyta and why do we care about him
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Winner of the I know who I_hyta award goes to...

PACOV!!!!

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