Reply #26 Top

Quoting control-SEVEN, reply 25
Review is up for Civ 5!

IGN: 9.0

Does this mean the end for Elemental? (Reminder IGN Elemental socre: 6.0)

 
End of control-SEVEN's quote

Nah.  It means we have something to do while they fix this game.

Reply #27 Top

Quoting control-SEVEN, reply 25
Review is up for Civ 5!

IGN: 9.0

Does this mean the end for Elemental? (Reminder IGN Elemental socre: 6.0)

 
End of control-SEVEN's quote

Wow, worse than Civ 4 (9.4) - a game I hated with a passion.  This is good news, it means I spent my money wisely on Elemental.

Reply #28 Top

This IGN Review is pretty valid in my opinion, I do however think a 7 would have been a better score. I have no doubt that Stardock will get this up to a 9 soon enough.

 

Reply #29 Top

Quoting Snarl, reply 28
This IGN Review is pretty valid in my opinion, I do however think a 7 would have been a better score. I have no doubt that Stardock will get this up to a 9 soon enough.

 
End of Snarl's quote

Yeah, I don't know about the rest of you, but my favorite games are usually in the 7-8 score range.  9.0 or above usually means that the game focused on too much polish and not enough "game" (which consequently, most reviewers think more highly of).

Reply #30 Top

Guys maybe let's wait for the demo before judging ? >_>

Reply #31 Top

So a troll jumps in with a review of another game, and this is what it generates...awesome.

Reply #32 Top

Quoting GaelicVigil, reply 27
Wow, worse than Civ 4 (9.4) - a game I hated with a passion.  This is good news, it means I spent my money wisely on Elemental.
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What on earth does the Civ 4 score have to do with whether Elemental is worth the money or not?

You sound like someone who is experiencing some severe cognitive dissonance.

Reply #33 Top

Quoting GaelicVigil, reply 27

Quoting control-SEVEN, reply 25Review is up for Civ 5!

IGN: 9.0

Does this mean the end for Elemental? (Reminder IGN Elemental socre: 6.0)

 

Wow, worse than Civ 4 (9.4) - a game I hated with a passion.  This is good news, it means I spent my money wisely on Elemental.
End of GaelicVigil's quote

 

By this logic, doesn't that mean Civ V is better than Civ IV?  Since you feel elemental is better and it got a lower score?

Reply #34 Top

Quoting wayninja, reply 33
By this logic, doesn't that mean Civ V is better than Civ IV?  Since you feel elemental is better and it got a lower score?
End of wayninja's quote

It's rare to find valid logic in post-hoc rationalizations (and other ego defense mechanisms).

Reply #35 Top

He never said anything about Elemental being better than either. From that comment, all you can tell is that Civ V isn't as good as Civ IV, which he hated. Personally I don't get what the comparison between the two is, they are different games, almost like night and day. You might like one better than the other, or maybe you like both. Big deal.

 

I'll probably end up getting Civ V, but honestly I have very low expectations for it, having played Civ II and the 3000 incarnations of it to death and back. Civ III and Civ IV and all the expansions pretty much rotted on my HDD until some decent mods came along that made it different. I expect the same will be true for Civ V, I'll get 1-2 games in, then set it aside for a year until a good mod come along. So to address the comment about the end of Elemental... "no." Then again, I don't judge games on how IGN scores it in the first place.

Reply #36 Top

Quoting Kalin, reply 35
He never said anything about Elemental being better than either.
End of Kalin's quote

No, but he made a post-hoc rationalization for his purchase of Elemental based on a ridiculous premise (that Civ 5's score was lower than Civ 4, which he hated). His posts have all the hallmarks of buyer's remorse. He is attempting to resolve his cognitive dissonance over this mistake by attacking Civ 5.

Reply #37 Top

Perhaps he was and perhaps he was not, I don't pretend to know what his psyche holds. Still, I follow his logic just fine. He hated Civ IV, sees Civ V scoring lower and thought, oh, good thing I bought Elemental instead. The only one I'm worried about is why you guys are attacking him.

Reply #38 Top

Quoting Kalin, reply 37
Perhaps he was and perhaps he was not, I don't pretend to know what his psyche holds. Still, I follow his logic just fine. He hated Civ IV, sees Civ V scoring lower and thought, oh, good thing I bought Elemental instead. The only one I'm worried about is why you guys are attacking him.
End of Kalin's quote

 

Where you lose the logic is the fact that Elemental scored lower than both Civ IV AND Civ V making his happiness based on those scores illogical.  See?  Logic is easy.

 

So if a lower score is better, than Civ V must be better than Civ IV.  Which is the only way the logic could work.

 

It's perfectly fine to ditch the scores in your thought process and like whatever game you want, but when you use the scores to quantify your happiness it all sorta breaks down.

Reply #39 Top

These things usually come down to economics and denial. People who can't afford to buy the latest hot thing and want it desperately and know that lots of other people can afford it, attack it instead to make themselves feel better. It never works!

Reply #40 Top

The logic is a bit bamboozling you have to admit. To paraphrase:

"I didn't like Civ 4 which got a 9.4, therefore I wouldn't like Civ 5 which got a 9, so it is great that instead I bought Elemental which got a 6."

Either he cares about the IGN scores in which case he should clearly be playing Civ 4 (or 5) instead of Elemental, or he doesn't give a hoot about the IGN scores in which case why is he criticising Civ 5 for getting (marginally) less than Civ 4?

Not that I really care obviously - if he prefers Elemental and that is the game he bought then, great, big win for him!

I just couldn't resist commenting on the logic  :grin: