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In other words: bring back Skirmish, scrap Pantheon ;P.

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Quoting Spooky__, reply 1
In other words: bring back Skirmish, scrap Pantheon .
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Yup.

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I actually agree with this.

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Oh and remove the AI, while we are at it :D ... or at least finally implement the /noAI switch.

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Quoting Spooky__, reply 1
In other words: bring back Skirmish, scrap Pantheon .
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Quoting Esuzu, reply 5



Quoting Spooky__,
reply 1
In other words: bring back Skirmish, scrap Pantheon .

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agreed.

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I think the Light / Dark mechanic should remain, however the restrictions on Demigods needs to be removed. As in Custom Match, any Demigod should be able to play on any side - it's up to the player to determine their own alignment - and any alignment should be able to play on the same side as any other alignment.

So, at the start of a new Pantheon Epoch you pick which side your playing for this round, and off you go. Whatever alignment you're playing for receives your Favour Points as per now, however as there are no restrictions on Demigods or on sides and so it's more for bragging rights than anything else. I like the basic mechanic of Pantheon, it's better than just a normal Match Making system, and I'd hate to see it removed completely, however I can see that it needs to be re-thought.

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Quoting ZehDon, reply 8
I think the Light / Dark mechanic should remain, however the restrictions on Demigods needs to be removed. As in Custom Match, any Demigod should be able to play on any side - it's up to the player to determine their own alignment - and any alignment should be able to play on the same side as any other alignment.

So, at the start of a new Pantheon Epoch you pick which side your playing for this round, and off you go. Whatever alignment you're playing for receives your Favour Points as per now, however as there are no restrictions on Demigods or on sides and so it's more for bragging rights than anything else. I like the basic mechanic of Pantheon, it's better than just a normal Match Making system, and I'd hate to see it removed completely, however I can see that it needs to be re-thought.
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I am highly against this. Right now in the bad system, choosing a side was a strategic decision. Allowing all sides to play all Demigod would have many players stacking on one side against another side which is going to lose horribly.

Right now, many n00bs enjoy playing in a tournament-style game that Pantheon provides. Removing Pantheon would remove a huge incentive for some players, and the player count would probably drop. Right now, Pantheon is not the perfect solution, but it is probably the better alternative.

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yea really, right now 13 people looking for game and im getting matched against ai.

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Quoting vindKtiv, reply 9
I am highly against this. Right now in the bad system, choosing a side was a strategic decision. Allowing all sides to play all Demigod would have many players stacking on one side against another side which is going to lose horribly.
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I'm afraid I don't understand - how does removing the limitations on Demigods encourage Demigod stacking, particularly if the match up is random? As it stands now, you have a good chance of getting into a game with stacked Demigods because of each side only have 4 Demigods to chose from - in particular Unclean Beast and Erebus seem to turn up a lot. Removing the Demigod restriction should lessen the stacking issue, and open Pantheon up so we don't get A.I.s in the game?

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I think the Light / Dark mechanic should remain, however the restrictions on Demigods needs to be removed. As in Custom Match, any Demigod should be able to play on any side - it's up to the player to determine their own alignment - and any alignment should be able to play on the same side as any other alignment.

So, at the start of a new Pantheon Epoch you pick which side your playing for this round, and off you go. Whatever alignment you're playing for receives your Favour Points as per now, however as there are no restrictions on Demigods or on sides and so it's more for bragging rights than anything else. I like the basic mechanic of Pantheon, it's better than just a normal Match Making system, and I'd hate to see it removed completely, however I can see that it needs to be re-thought.
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You could even just assign a player to a side... even/odd player id number, or just alternating (first is light, second is dark...) which would fix Light/Dark stacking.

Because, you know, Light or Dark winning is SO important.

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Quoting ZehDon, reply 11

Quoting vindKtiv, reply 9I am highly against this. Right now in the bad system, choosing a side was a strategic decision. Allowing all sides to play all Demigod would have many players stacking on one side against another side which is going to lose horribly.
I'm afraid I don't understand - how does removing the limitations on Demigods encourage Demigod stacking, particularly if the match up is random? As it stands now, you have a good chance of getting into a game with stacked Demigods because of each side only have 4 Demigods to chose from - in particular Unclean Beast and Erebus seem to turn up a lot. Removing the Demigod restriction should lessen the stacking issue, and open Pantheon up so we don't get A.I.s in the game?
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Did I say Demigod stacking? No, I said stacking on sides. Most people are going to join whatever side is winning, which is going to give a huge disadvantage to one specific side. With the current system, just joining the side that is winning is not as appealing, as your favorite Demigod might be on the other side?

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Did I say Demigod stacking? No, I said stacking on sides. Most people are going to join whatever side is winning, which is going to give a huge disadvantage to one specific side. With the current system, just joining the side that is winning is not as appealing, as your favorite Demigod might be on the other side?

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Is that what "most people" will do?  Thanks for the bulletin--I guess I didn't get the memo.  It seems I keep joining the smaller side to increase my chances of having someone to play against.

 

Because, you know, Light or Dark winning is SO important.

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^^ QFT!

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Quoting vindKtiv, reply 13
Did I say Demigod stacking? No, I said stacking on sides. Most people are going to join whatever side is winning, which is going to give a huge disadvantage to one specific side. With the current system, just joining the side that is winning is not as appealing, as your favorite Demigod might be on the other side?
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Your hostile tone isn't warranted, a simple "you've misunderstood my comments" would have sufficed.

How about making the current Pantheon standings hidden to players who have not yet selected a side for the current epoch?

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Pantheon is even worse today, 20 minutes without a game vs humans.  Despite 4-5 people searching.

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Quoting vindKtiv, reply 9

Right now in the bad system, choosing a side was a strategic decision. Allowing all sides to play all Demigod would have many players stacking on one side against another side which is going to lose horribly.
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Wow.  Can you explain that again to me.  Why would I join the side that would guarantee that will end up playing against the AI more often than not?  If you want a game against live opponents, you join the side with fewer people - common sense.

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Why not each pantheon mix the demigods up a bit, still divide into light and dark but which 4 demigods are on light side and which 4 are on dark side changes each pantheon?

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Quoting smodge13, reply 18
Why not each pantheon mix the demigods up a bit, still divide into light and dark but which 4 demigods are on light side and which 4 are on dark side changes each pantheon?
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The only way that would help is if they were intentionally split by popularity... if you've gone so far as to base it on that, then why not just go all the way and eliminate the distinction completely?