Swift Anklet simply needs to be removed.

Since Demigod is team game and not solo, i don't find speed boost things bad. There's more movement speed reducing items than boosting ones. and then half of demigods have snare skills too.

As long as people refuse to play on fast game speed, you can't take out items like the swift anklet. I can barely stand how slow it is on normal speed, even with the anklet.

What does that have to do with anything? The fact is that most of the time, you will only have 2 allies, so you will very often find yourself in a 1v1 type situation. Even in a teamwork situation like a 2v2  battle where you can chase down a damaged demigod. Speed reducing items? There's only 1 or 2 favor items that do so.

So what if they have snare? How do you address the fact that when you have over 20 items to choose from, 80% of people take the same item. That shows right there that something is wrong.

I'd prefer that more than a handful of the other items were given a comparable bonus, personally.

Why does it need to be removed? So that UB, TB, and any other demigod with snares will never loose a kill? The Swift Anklet is highly beneficial to movement speed, that's it. It's balanced, and I don't even use it that much. When someone gets away from me because their movement speed is higher, I can still grind on creeps because they're not in my lane anymore.

I think favour items should just be reworked. The +800HP favour item is clearly just an upgrade of the +400HP one, which is plain wrong.

Um, Iggs , you do realize that the UB and TB you mentionned have the swift anklet also? UB will also benefit more from it because he has a higher base movement speed than most other demigods.

People keep disagreeing but they don't even address the fact that OVER 80% OF PEOPLE TAKE IT. If you don't address that, your opinion really isn't valid.

Swift Anklet is incredibly broken and does need to be nerfed (I think deleting them before trying a nerf would be premature), I agree.

The mere fact that a gigantic proportion of all players playing all Demigods take it show that it is overpowered. And the only real way to counter it in many cases is to take it yourself, which vastly reduces the strategy and variety involved in the game.

lots of ppl use it because lots of ppl havent tried the other favor items.  there was a good post here recently on some dude using the teleportation amulet because of a favor bug and just loving it.  hes correct, the others have their places, just try them.

I agree that the Swift Anklet is nearly mandatory for most heroes.  Everyone takes it, you can obviously tell.  The point is because demigods can attack while moving (I don't think they should be able to but that's another topic) as long as they are slightly faster than you they can chase you while attacking forever and can always escape your attack range while fleeing from you.

As it is, everyone starts at +15% speed.

Fast game speed is AWFUL.  Everything moves far too fast.  Any interrupt is impossible.  Autoattack heroes like Regulus dominate.

And what does that matter if ppl take it? there's too many better items than that but they are just blind.

This thread makes me sad.  Rational community boards, we hardly knew ye.

Well, to be fair, the 400HP item also includes a death-penalty reduction.

Although, yes, I'm sure we're thinking the same thing: Who wants a favor item that comes with the expectation of dying more often?

Prove 80% of people take it first.

I very rarely use it anymore due to Amulet of teleportation + others. The speed doesn't matter as most of the time even if they get away I still win. Espcailly if i'm playing a tower rook as if they run not only do I still get exp / gold but I can start moving my towers forward.

So I guess swift anklet might be a problem if you think killing other demi-gods is the only way to win.

Actually no, they're not blind at all, quite the opposite. They can see the completely obvious. I myself tried taking a different item 1 time and the results were very discouraging after I missed out on 2 kills early in the game in which foes with less than 500 health were just barely able to get away because they very clearly took the anklet. Since then I have never taken anything but the anklet.

dude. You people make me sick.  Every Thing in the game needs to be nerfed, discontinue the game and pull it from the shelves its so god damn bad an unplayable because you people have a problem with every thing about it...

Amulet of Teleportation is far superior.

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Lol I agree with this...does anyone else think the gameplay speed is waaay to slow? without the extra speed I have time to run downstairs and make a snack before my guy reaches my base to heal.

Tower Rook is the least mobility dependant DG in the game, and one of the least dependant on being an effective DG killer. If you actually want to fight enemy DGs as opposed to merely racing them in a PVE battle, you need move speed in the same league as the person you are fighting. And some DGs, like Unclean Beast, need to be able to retreat by moving since they have no defense abilities and no heals.

It depends. I fought against an Angel Wings Regulus who I could never escape from and never chase down due solely to Swift Anklet. Teleportation is nice, but getting extra kills because the enemy has no way of escaping is better.

It is not "overpowered" it is just "very useful". A speed boost can be easily countered by speed reducing items. Fuck with me when I'm Regulus and I'll lay my lvl 4 mines on your ass and it won't matter if you have swift anklet or not, you're dead because you can't move.

honestly if it bothers you that bad choose to play without favor items. I personally don't think its broken, and i most the time don't even take the anklet. there are much more benificial items than that. besides if you plan out your attack and play as a team the enemy hero wont even be able to escape. or if your 1v1ing them like you said busdude, if you plan out your attack and use a stun or slow them as they're running away. There are many ways to get around this, it is definatly not overpowered and i don't  think it should be removed.

I'd say that if it is so useful as to get picked even when it has nothing to do with how you will play your character, it's probably overpowered.

Edit: I'm not a johny come lately to this issue. I've thought it was probably too good for a couple weeks. I've used it myself, seen others use it, explored the counters to it, discussed it with other players, etc, and I still think it is too good. I think changing it to +10% would probably make it fair.

And perhaps buffing Saam'El's Cloak to "+5% move speed and Move speed cannot be reduced by more than 15%", so there is a legitimate choice between the two. If anyone took Saam-El's Cloak right now as the items stand, I'd call them a fool.

There's only two and both are only a chance on hit, meaning they are unreliable and can only be used in circumstances when you can auto attack multiple times (so, not fleeing). Worse yet, speed reduction is generally worse than a passive speed upgrade, as it's far more narrow in its uses. Swift Anklet gets you to the Healing Crystal and back faster, Poisoned Dagger does not.

Not everyone has powerful ranged slows like Regulus. And most importantly, levels 1-9 matter quite a bit.

Being able to read a situation is far more useful then having the speed and never learning anything. I hardly use swift anklet on UB due to inner beast letting me keep up with regular enemy Demi-gods. Even If i'm slightly slower I just pick up the 1k boots. That combined with diseased claws makes demi-gods unable to run away from me. Combined with the fact i'm not going to put myself in a situation where I can't run away effectively.

There's much more important favor items to get then the anklet.

So I guess anklet is overpowered if you can't read a situation correctly or put yourself in situations where you can't run away if something happens. Only demi-god I find I actually need speed for are TB and QoT. QoT doesn't need though as her auto-attack doesn't work properly when moving anyways.

The game isn't all about kills.  If you're going for flag caps, amulet of teleportation is better.  Also, some of the favour items that boost damage are pretty nice too.  Since it's a team game, as long as one of your guys can slow the enemy down, you can concentrate on dps.

Back when my favour was messed up and I had 4 billion favour, I tried all sorts of teh different higher level favour items.  I wouldn't necessarily say they're all totally balanced, but to claim that the swift anklet dominates all is incorrect.

Another point I'd like to mention - the game isn't all about chasing down demigods.  Often times in team squirmishes, there's little time to run - or you can't.  During these occasions, having faster movement does nothing.