Want to know what I think about homosexuals?

The more gay men there are, the more women for the rest of us.

The more gay men there are, the more women for the rest of us.

True enough...and I couldn't agree more...that's one of the reasons I'm not against them.

~Zoo

The more gay men there are, the more women for the rest of us.

Hey its true.....

NS38

Joke: a woman asks a friend where are all the GOOD MEN, her friends answeres they already have boyfriends. lol

a woman asks a friend where are all the GOOD MEN, her friends answeres they already have boyfriends

...heh, heh

~Zoo

Being a jock never really worried any of you boys, did it? - Homosexuality is not a sexual problem, it is a problem of the inner nature of the individual. That my friends will not change simply by being indifferent or making jokes. Have you considered that your comments might actually be hurtful to someone who is gay. I am not sure that I know how to be of assistance to a gay person, but I have found over the years being warm and genuine and letting them find a confidant is of far more use than using someone else's reality to vent you immaturity, this is what I am witnessing, is it not? Perhaps you should have read my earlier post on the subject.

using someone else's reality to vent you immaturity, this is what I am witnessing, is it not?

I knew comments like this would start...I tried to be very mature during the composition of the article. I'm just trying to be honest. Like I said, I don't have anything against them....but I'm not their buddy. Consider it a very mild rant...

~Zoo

Well, while I wish people would accept homosexuals, I never said anything about being buddies with them. If you're not all "Gay people are evil! They are sinners and will burn in Hell!" then I won't have a problem, nor will I pry into, your attitude towards them. In other words, this is basically what I expect from people. I don't think it makes you a bad person, or immature, or anything. Just a person.

I don't think it makes you a bad person, or immature, or anything. Just a person.

Thanks, that's basically what I was trying to convey...thank you again for understanding.

~Zoo

I think you're kidding yourself, Zoologist03, and here is the 'tell':
'... personally I think it's not natural.'
Here are some other things that are not 'natural' - Caesarian delivery, sky-diving, air travel, appendectomies, wearing spectacles. If you feel equally disinclined to support people who have engaged in these activities and as 'nervous' in their company as with homosexuals, then I'll buy your explanation. Otherwise, no matter how much you deny it (compare how often the opening remark 'I'm not a racist BUT ...' leads to an explicit xenophobic outburst), then you have 'cleared it up' - homophobic is EXACTLY what you are.

'Homosexuality is not a sexual problem, it is a problem of the inner nature of the individual.'
Wow! What a turn up for the books; I actually agree with Aeryck on something. Although I doubt that Aeryck means this the way I read it. If it is a 'problem' at all, yes, it IS a problem of the inner nature of the individual. NOT the gay individual though, but the one who perceives homosexuality as a 'problem'. lol

homophobic

Homophobic literally means "fear of the same"...I'm not afraid of things that are the same....

~Zoo

aeryck's quote: 'I have found over the years being warm and genuine and letting them find a confidant is of far more use'

Zoo you are selectively manipulating the discussion, by only quoting parts that agree with how you would like this discussion to go.

In 1983, I met a very wonderful person, they impressed me with their ability to show warmth and affection, to be curteous and polite, to spread friendliness and understanding. It was the shield they used, to keep the prying eyes out of the privacy in a male dominated environment, where very quickly if you were found to be gay, you would be crushed and eventually pushed out into the market insearch of another job. This person loved their job deeply, and was dedicated and loyal and I loved serving under them. I was even invited home and there for the first time I discovered that my friend was infact gay. They lived together and shared a nice big warm double bed, they were happy and had the most beautiful apartment. They argued like any other couple might and though they were extremely different they appeared to be happy. I would not even have known this, if I had not been invited home. I did not pry and they felt confident to trust me with the sum of their lives.

I continued my freindship with this person for a number and sadly eventually they moved on to another job with better pay, good for them and better job prospect. Sure I told them about Jesus and how much he loves them and would long to be a part of their lives, for me it is as natural as it is for a bird to fly or for you to desire to act indifferent. I am just trying to figure you in the senario, if there was anyone who might have played the role you have done here. Yes, I do know one person like this.

Feel at liberty to correct me if you wish, I am a little in the dark as to the true nature and the object of your thread. It seems a little simplistic, let me confuse you further, though I hope that is not the case.

Remember not to edit quote me again please. Some bloggs you cannot do that, you have to respond to what the person said, not to just what you want, that would be in most ....[already said]...

This person is a musician, and not really a good one. Having been divorced due ot infidelity, they are very, very religious and if a joke about homosexuality was told like yours above, the line would be very strong....God hates homosexuals!....which I must OVEREMPHASIZE for those who are Christian fundamentalists, GOD DOES NOT HATE HOMOSEXUALS OR GAY OR LESBIANS, that is a very unChristian thing to say, or even think. God hates what we conceal in our hearts. You might get someone who is gay, not involved with anyone, living with their gayness, if that is the wrong word please forgive me. Living with their gayness and loving God. He is the great doctor of the human soul and personality, and as such he has made us the way we are, not child living or having lived or soon to live will grow and develop without genuine self esteem, that simply means being loved and accepted. Being indifferent is hardly the sort of position you want to be in, it might be misconstrued as some sort of sexual ambivalence. Maybe not, but still I do believe it is nice to just be loving to all people, gay or lesbian or bi-sexual people long to just be accepted for themselves.

It seems a little hazy though Zoo, however if you feel this way, then I have badgered you unduly and I wish you well in befriending as many people from the many different dynamics that this life has to offer. I wonder why you bagged the term 'homosexuals' like 'white' 'black' 'fat' 'jesus freaks' 'homos' - no matter how you look at it, there has to be a point of getting out of that box way of seeing people, after all people are all one blood.U2 .

'Homophobic literally means "fear of the same"...I'm not afraid of things that are the same...'

No it doesn't!

1. Assuming you are breaking down the word into its main constituents, the prefix 'homo-' can mean EITHER 'same, equal' (from the Greek 'homos' = same) or 'human being, genus to which human beings and several of their fossil ancestors belong' (from the Latin 'homo' = man). (All dictionary definitions from the New Shorter Oxford.) The point is that you don't get to choose which 'homo'' prefix you would prefer it to be.

2. That said, you fundamentally misunderstand language if you think that the meaning of a word derives simply from the sum of its parts. 'Homophobic' means 'Afraid of or hostile to homosexuals and homosexuality'. End of story.

3. And let's not forget that it was YOU who introduced this term, in your initial blog - 'I am not homophobic', remember?

4. Finally, it's a sure sign of a failing argument when people attempt to reinterpret the language merely to justify their own positions. Remember Bill Clinton's "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' means"? (Duplicitous AND ungrammatical!) Well, at least you're in famous company there, Zoologist03.

Furry Canary- Okay...so you define homophobic...whatever...I'm not homophobic at all. I write an article about not being homophobic and you go ahead and accuse me of it anyway? It's not an argument in the least...but merely my opinion. Just because I don't march with the rainbow flag doesn't mean I'm homophobic....just because I'm not a hellfire preacher doesn't mean I support them. I express my views in a mild, indifferent way....but interpret it the way you wish.

aeryck:

if a joke about homosexuality was told like yours above, the line would be very strong

I did not make a joke...I just laughed at one.

God hates what we conceal in our hearts.

Hence I voiced my opinion.

Really all this thread is...is how I feel. I'm lukewarm in the ocean of prejudice. I don't choose to hang out with homosexuals often, and I don't pitch a bitch if I have to come in contact with one. Perhaps I'm not the warmest person for them to come to...but I'm not going to persecute them.

~Zoo

' Furry Canary- Okay...so you define homophobic...whatever...'
Er, no - YOU defined homophobic. I just pointed out that your definition was wrong. Big difference. And, as I said before, your denial doesn't change a thing. If it were as easy as that, then the entire legal justice system would be surplus to requirement. (Yes, yes I know! )

Zoologist03, now you see why I don't keep the comments of snipers in my blog. All they do is take pot shots, without bothering to actually say anything worth reading.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. My opinion of homosexuality... it's a temptation that needs to be overcome, just like any other sexual temptation outside of marriage. What is my opinion of homosexuals? Same as my opinion of anyone else. I don't base my opinion of any person on a demographic, I base it on the person.

Er, no - YOU defined homophobic.

Okay....you're right....now let's not argue about that....

~Zoo

What I find funny is that Striaght people seem to be spending alot of energy and time worrying about homosexuals. Like it is going to do something to them. Of they are not one then why worry bout them? It's all very interesting to me.

Of they are not one then why worry bout them?

You know, I have no damned idea.

~Zoo

Well why write an article about it? Your straight yeah? Then why worry bout it?

Well why write an article about it? Your straight yeah? Then why worry bout it?

I suppose out of curiosity....or just an interest in the world around me....

~Zoo

Well why write an article about it? Your straight yeah? Then why worry bout it?

It's his blog. Let him write what he wants. He doesn't come onto your blog and tell you not to write about things, now does he?

NewspeakWordsmith

Zoo--Can you clarify one thing for me? Would you be friends with a gay person?

I understand when you say that you don't support homosexuality (I don't agree, but I can understand that it is contrary to your value system). But the reason I ask my first question is because I have many friends that do things that I don't "approve of," but that doesn't make me love them or treasure their friendship any less.

If you automatically won't befriend someone simply because they are gay, you are the one who is going to lose out. I'm not saying you need to carry a rainbow flag and attend every march--but I also think you are doing yourself a great disservice by shutting yourself off to potentially wonderful human beings!

Please don't think this was an attack--it certainly was not meant to be. From reading your blogs, I've come to the conclusion that you are fairly clear-headed and will be able to engage in serious discussion -- I wouldn't have bothered to post this to many other bloggers around here.

Zoo--Can you clarify one thing for me? Would you be friends with a gay person?

Yes, I believe I would.....I'm not distancing myself from them....just saying I have no judgement one way or the other. If a gay person would like to be my friend...I can't think of a reason why they couldn't.(Unless they were really offensive or an asshole or something like that...but that's something I factor in with every potential friend.)

~Zoo

t's his blog. Let him write what he wants. He doesn't come onto your blog and tell you not to write about things, now does he?

Sure it'shis blog and he can write whatever he wants...Im just curious as to why.