Missing traits from level 5 champion after recruitment

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Howdy folks. Doing my first playthrough in 9.0, random map, medium size, hard / hard settings (to get used to changes and actually focus on testing them instead of beating the map).

As soon as I reach 100 fame, I get to choose a new champion. 1 option was a spell caster which I already had 2, and other one a defender Troll. Obviously wanted the troll for his specialization and achievement (friends from the swamp).

For my surprise, the troll champion despite being level 5, has not a single point spent in either General or Defender trees. He also doesn't have spare points for me to choose some skills. He some traits (not in game atm so can't check), but those are not from either trees.

 

Is this a bug, with this type of hero, or is it a specific decision with other races heroes to not have specializations?

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top


It's just a design decision. Tuatha has Calloused Hide, Regeneration, Tough and Revenge as abilities (and Vulnerability to fire). Giving him extra skills in the General or Defender trees would make him OP compared to other level 5 champions. It could be argued that Tuatha is limited with the equipment he can use but that's another debate.

There are other champions which have no points spent in their path trees and have to start from scratch. Janusk for example: a level 3 Defender who starts with Merchant 2, a Commander skill.

I think it makes these champions more unique and thus more interesting.

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top

Ah I see, thanks.

But doesn't this impact the effectiveness of such a champion if you are getting him at 200-300-400 fame when he would be level 9+?

Or then they receive some abilities spent in the trees?

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Reply #3 from Elemental Forums Top


Champions are designed with a fixed starting level. Tuatha has a spawn rating of 5, meaning he will always be available as a level 5 champion (at 100 fame). You can't get him at other levels of fame (well except 800 and beyond where all champions become randomly available again but he will remain a level 5 champion).

Reply #4 from Elemental Forums Top

Ah I see thanks, there's no info about this, and I thought each champion has a chance to spawn, but their level is increased (and they are given a class & skills based on that) :)