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Doesn't it currently only ("only") provide the ability to recruit champions from both kingdoms and empires, and provide the Broken Loyalties spell, while the Silver Tongue spell itself comes from the Diplomat sovereign career? I think that just the champions aspect alone would probably still be worth more than one point, while Broken Loyalties wouldn't be worth one point in most games unless it was paired with an influence-generating trait like the Altarians have.
Although a custom race that did pair up those abilities would be pretty hardcore.
I don't need to make this post, MisterAedan has said everything that needs to be said perfectly, so I will just repeat and back up his point.
Betrayers doesn't give silver tongue, diplomat does.
I assume you are talking about the spell that steals a city using 500 influence, broken loyalties. This sounds cool and powerful, but few nations other than Altar or a custom with Heroics will have this spell. I wish that I could say that I have used it, but I never have. Broken loyalties by itself isn't worth 1 point, And betrayers is probably too good for 1 point even without that spell.
If you think that the whole package is not worth 2 points, there's something I wish was added to the game, and betrayers seems the place where it would fit.
The ability to capture buildings that you cannot build yourself. So that Karavox, for example, could occupy a Pariden city and keep the watermill, the scrying pool, and the essence temple.
This is a very situational advantage, but it's a cool one.
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