Master of Magic

i installed dosbox but it wont run - it always says illegal command when i try installing/running it with dosbox...is it because i use a 64bit windows?

Head on over to GOG.com (Good Old Games).

They sell a version that runs on modern Windows via DosBox, and is reasonably priced at $5.99.

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/master_of_magic

If you are a fan of Master of Magic, odds are decent you might enjoy SimTex's other space-4x older titles in the Master of Orion series too. 

You might want to avoid Master of Orion III however.  It's got quite the bad rep.

ah damn it, i just spent 8 hours playing master of magic without even noticing how the time went...that game is just great...hopefully elemntal will be able to capture its spirit and the cool heroes

ah damn it, i just spent 8 hours playing master of magic without even noticing how the time went...that game is just great...hopefully elemntal will be able to capture its spirit and the cool heroes

there is unfortunately no save option... is there anyway to save the game without leaving it(before tough battles etc.)?

Save scumming is wrong. =p

I'll just leave this here.

naaa the problem is you never really know whtas inside..sometimes it tells you there are warbears in a ruin - and then there are 9 of em, or there is 1 warbear and 3 earth elemental or wyrms (well thanks...) moreover i usually use the save rather in terms of hero or artifacts getting...

Use the Summon weak ghost spirit spell thing to send in the ghost as a sacrificial scout.

damn it...a stupid unit of phantom warrior just killed my hero - WTF - he had 30 attack, 35 defense, same resistance, and lots of hit points, breath attack, vampiric attack, flaming attack and whatver everything - they killed him with 1 hit - i know their attacks pass defense, but WTF?

Ignoring defense means just that : your 35 shields are ignored and each sword of each individual phantom warrior unit has 30% chance of doing one damage.

So you can kill them easily, but without illusion immunity you're going to hurt.

Phantom warriors are easy to deal by using ranged attacks, or with units with illusion immunity (any undead, unit with illusion immunity enchantment, ...)

Never attack in melee a phatom warrior squad with a hero (or other strong unit) unless he eitheir has illusion immunity or lots of hits points to survive the attack.

yeah, but there are 6 in a squad meaning they can do a maximum of 1 damage?! my hero has like 20 hit points so this shouldnt happen....

and on the other hand if i do have phantom warriors on my side, they are not even able to kill a damn unit spearmen

moreover all my other "squad" units dont loose 1 single man when fighting phantom warriors (berserkers) and my hero has far superior attributes...so maybe it was also a bug from the game, cause my hero was just gone after 1 single attack

Have you tried to click on the game button (top left)? That should give you the list of the available savegame.

yeah, i dont have a save option...the deleted it for whatever reason...you can only quit and then continue the last game once you log back in...

i recently saw somewhere a multiplayer edition for master of magic where you could play with several people online (turn for turn) - that would be major cool...

lol always on that forum, when discussing such topics, i realize how old you all are that you play(ed) these games...must be the forum with the oldest gamers on the web

That sounds like some whackiness to me. My saves work just fine.

@Warren Steffan thanks for the link! Even though I already had both MoM and Dosbox I never did get it set up right. My Dos-fu is ancient and rusted into uselessness. It was worth paying $6 to get it all done by someone else.

Now I just need an extra 10 hours in every day so I can play properly.

About Phantom Warriors. They can kill you dead, they do a lot of damage and your defenses are worthless. Use ranged weapons, magic, or at least some kind of first strike ability like throw weapons or flame breath to kill them. If not ... well Regeneration means never having to say goodbye to your favoite hero.

as said that still doesnt explain

- why phantom warriors never kill shit, not even a unit of spearmen when fighting for me

- how a unit that can do 6 damage maximum kills my hero with 20 hits instantly...?

and WHY OH WYH do i

a.) always start in crap starting positions

b.) never get the good heros i want

c.) are orks pink and not green and dont have any cool special units HA??

honestly, i would allread think it to be major cool if there was simly a graphical update ot master of magic...not super new, just like civ 3 graphics or so, maybe some new races/spells/heroes and units... any modders?

I seems to recall that the phantom warriors were more like 3 or 4 swords each, not 1.

Moreover, if you were fighting in a sorcery node, they get +2 ATT/DEF as all sorcery creatures in a sorcery node.

I use them often against other units and find them usually more cost effective that a direct damage spell of the same cost.

Note that they *will* fight worse against spearmen, as those usually come in squads of 8 for most race, so they need 8 hits instead of 6 or 4 to kill, and they get 8 units to counter attack agains their 0 def and 1 hit point.

Phantom warrior are a very good way  to kill or at least damage a heavy squad or hero, they might not win everytime against spearmen, but they will do as much damage on swordmen, pikemen, or heroes and monsters as long as they don't have immunity, so you might say that they scale with the defence of their target.

From what I've read so far, it won't. There are so many more facettes to the gameplay of Elemental that will make it much more difficult to be successful at all. Also it will take much longer till you get advanced armies and heroes, not to mention summoned creatures.

Don't get me wrong. I believe that Elemental will be a great game. And I can't wait for it to be available for playing. But it simply won't be a new version of MoM but something completely different.

Eh, it's touch and go.

We have to wait for the magic tech tree to come in to see how it measures up.

damn i would REALLY love an master of magic update with some betther graphics (not new, age of wonders quality is enough) within the warhammer setting...now that would be cool...its a shame they never released their code.... but there are lots of civ mom mods around

sometimes, i think the cost calculation for some spells is strange - for example, elemntal armor and iron skin are both as expensive, but elemental armor increase defense by 10 while iron skin does only increase it by 5 (or is elemental armor only against magic, then the description is not that accurate)

Elemental armour only applies to, I think, chaos and nature foes/magic. So Iron skin is generally better, EA is situationally better.

oh ok...description doesnt say that...:

Dramatically improves a target unit’s defenses (shields) and
resistance to magic (crosses), by 10 each. The defense and
resistance bonuses provided by elemental armor do not exert
cumulative effects with resist elements.

After reading this thread I now have to play through a game of MoM

Funny how a game so old remains better than the vast majority of games that come to market these days.