military strength graph going haywire

I've had intermittent display problems with the History graph (different-sounding than yours, but also making the display useless) since I started playing and have seen them occasionally across both the expansions, plenty of updates, and a change of PC. Occasionally, it seemed like the problem was 'stuck' in a game save, but then after many turns it would go away again.

One question to see if it might not be a 'bug' getting. Were you by any chance upgrading your entire fleet when the trough appeared on your graph? Ships have HP 0 during the turn(s) they are upgrading, which might make that chart line drop.

Not real sure what you're talking about.

Could you post a screenshot of your issue.

Also you should mention what vesion of the game you're using as well.

I am familiar with an anomaly that occurs in your military timeline graph. Basically it occurs in some versions and revisions of the game and is due to a "wrap" that occurs at a military rating of about 6 million and again at 12 million.

To see this you have to achieve huge levels of military strength, generally you need 6+ fully populated military resource mines along with 17,000+ ships along with all of these ships being under a military starbase array consisting of 24 SB's. Even then it's tough to achieve these levels but it is possible.

Here is a screenshot of what I'm talking about.

Note the "wrap" occurs at a point in the game where I upgraded 17,000 huge hull ships with 1 attack and 1 defense point into ships with 25 attack points and 550 defense points (prior to all bonuses of course). This appears as a decline of my military strength from a value of about 5 million to a value of about 3 million because the display "wraps" twice, once at 6 million and again at 12 million.

However the display at the bottom of the main screen shows the "true" shape of the curve.

The above screenshot shows the main screen military strength graph along with my 24 military starbase array.

Note that the AI's military strength is invisible at this scale merely because of the huge value of my military.

One other point to note is that your military strength is shown under your Civ Manager Stats & Graphs tab as in the following screenshot. The thing is that the value under the Stats & Graphs tab displays your current "real time" military strength whereas the Military Timeline in the Civ Manager is delayed by one turn and the main screen military graph is delayed by two turns.

Also note that the above shows the bar graph section which lists the opponents in this game as "no contacts". This is because these screenshots are from the endgamesave file where I have eliminated all the AI's and will win in the following turn. In reality this game was against 9 AI's in a gigantic galaxy in DL v1.4x.

So does this have any correspondence to what you're talking about?

I know what you're talking about, and it's happened to me as well, although I haven't seen it happen in the latest versions of Dark Avatar or ToA (yet)

It's different from what you're talking about mumble, as it's never correlated to a specific ammount of X resource or time in game.  Sometimes it happens very early, sometimes very late, and it doesn't happen every game.  The only constant is that it occurs after loading a saved game.

It's the graph displayed along the bottom of the main screen.  Almost every time a game is loaded from a save, the graph is no longer strecthed out properly, and you end up with the useles compressed data in between large spaces of no data.

Unfortunately I no longer have a screenshot handy, but I and others have sent them into the devs along with debug.err files; I remember I think it was Cari and maybe one other dev saying they thought they had fixed the issue.

i have since deleted taht save game but it has been a recurring problem in all versions of the game. im going to try just playing DA and see if it happens there.

i have since deleted taht save game but it has been a recurring problem in all versions of the game. im going to try just playing DA and see if it happens there.