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Ironclad Talks About Second Sins Expansion

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Ironclad Talks About Second Sins Expansion

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I just came across this interview with Ironclad’s Blair Fraser with 1up.com about the next installment in the micro-expansions for Sins of a Solar Empire.

"The second micro expansion is really about both diplomacy and the non-military aspects of the game which will bring it more in line with the RT4X sub-genre we've labeled it as. Certainly, multiple paths to victory, especially non military paths, are part of that," Fraser said, adding that the introduction of additional game modes that will make the game more multiplayer-friendly is also a distinct possibility, pointing to the user-made Sins of a Solar Empire DOME mod as an example.”

Check out the article at 1up.com.

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Reply #51 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting icen9ne, reply 25
Ya Haree78, the "lore" comments perplex me.  Sins doesn't even have a campaign yet.  The only lore we've got came from a short cinematic (more like picture-matic) with some voice over.  Hopefully, there's a lot more to come.
End of icen9ne's quote

Manual + website lore + forum releases + original sins trailer + opening cinematic + in-game descriptions. There's a fair bit of lore out there and if you piece it all together the picture is much more comprehensive.

Reply #52 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting TheSpydyr, reply 21

Quoting Annatar11, reply 10
I actually checked.

Sucker.

Oh now that's just wrong!
End of TheSpydyr's quote

What can I say, I was hopeful.  Besides, Annatar always seems to know what's going on...how should I have known he was going to lie to me?

Quoting TheSpydyr, reply 21

Quoting Sole Soul, reply 19
"Entrancement"

I lol'ed pretty hard on this one.
End of TheSpydyr's quote

A lot of people typoed it in the forums and I ran with it.  It certainly sounds like something the Advent would be involved with, and "entrancing" someone could be espionage/diplomacy, so it's not entirely unrealistic, although I'm not too sure that's what I'd want "Entrancement" to be.  Maybe the third expansion...?

Quoting Annatar11, reply 22

Oh now that's just wrong!
Only if you're not me. Which, I guess you're not. Sucker.


I lol'ed pretty hard on this one.
Well, Entrancement is perfectly valid. I mean, just look at those Advent curves. And you just know they'd realize that in the future clothes are a waste of valuable resources. Oh, this isn't the dirty minds thread?
End of Annatar11's quote

Mmm, Advent curves...

Siege of Centauri
Reply #53 from Sins Forums Top

Besides, Annatar always seems to know what's going on...how should I have known he was going to lie to me?
End of quote

I didn't lie! I just said to check again, without any implications. ;)

Reply #54 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Haree78, reply 24
I'm absolutely dumbfounded though that some people are arguing against extra races.  On a game that can be played on the scale Sins can it feels like such a wasted opportunity to only be able to have 10 factions of only 3 races
End of Haree78's quote

 

I covered this, read up

Reply #55 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Annatar11, reply 7
Well, some of the speech was going to be a bit more coarse, and they were going to have floating bodies and such when ships blew up. Craig mentioned that in a thread a while back. Besides that, I don't know!
End of Annatar11's quote

And I think it's been hinted at that the TEC swore a bit more and the Advent were.... rather happy with their blood lust.

Reply #56 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Blair, reply 1
Quoting icen9ne,
reply 25
Ya Haree78, the "lore" comments perplex me.  Sins doesn't even have a campaign yet.  The only lore we've got came from a short cinematic (more like picture-matic) with some voice over.  Hopefully, there's a lot more to come.


Manual + website lore + forum releases + original sins trailer + opening cinematic + in-game descriptions. There's a fair bit of lore out there and if you piece it all together the picture is much more comprehensive.
End of Blair's quote

Hopefully this will help to clear it up for those that believe that there is no lore in the game right now...there is plenty of lore.

Reply #57 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting TheSpydyr, reply 6

Quoting Blair Fraser, reply 1Quoting icen9ne,
reply 25
Ya Haree78, the "lore" comments perplex me.  Sins doesn't even have a campaign yet.  The only lore we've got came from a short cinematic (more like picture-matic) with some voice over.  Hopefully, there's a lot more to come.


Manual + website lore + forum releases + original sins trailer + opening cinematic + in-game descriptions. There's a fair bit of lore out there and if you piece it all together the picture is much more comprehensive.

Hopefully this will help to clear it up for those that believe that there is no lore in the game right now...there is plenty of lore.
End of TheSpydyr's quote

Meh, I disagree.  I'm not emotionally attached to the game because I have no characters or story to attach myself to.  That's what separates Starcraft from all the others.  Or even look at Halo.  They both have interesting characters up against insurmountable odds.  You feel for them.  Emotion is Storytelling 101.

Reply #58 from Sins Forums Top

Shouldn't you be asking for more story content ingame, then, rather than a mishmash of more random races? :P

Reply #59 from Sins Forums Top

There will be no new playable factions in the next micro-expansion. It doesn't fit the theme and since we are only charging $10 it wouldn't be cost effective on top of everything else that's being added. As I said in the interview, its about diplomacy and non-military options.

Reply #60 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting icen9ne, reply 7



Quoting TheSpydyr,
reply 6

Quoting Blair Fraser, reply 1Quoting icen9ne,
reply 25
Ya Haree78, the "lore" comments perplex me.  Sins doesn't even have a campaign yet.  The only lore we've got came from a short cinematic (more like picture-matic) with some voice over.  Hopefully, there's a lot more to come.


Manual + website lore + forum releases + original sins trailer + opening cinematic + in-game descriptions. There's a fair bit of lore out there and if you piece it all together the picture is much more comprehensive.

Hopefully this will help to clear it up for those that believe that there is no lore in the game right now...there is plenty of lore.


Meh, I disagree.  I'm not emotionally attached to the game because I have no characters or story to attach myself to.  That's what separates Starcraft from all the others.  Or even look at Halo.  They both have interesting characters up against insurmountable odds.  You feel for them.  Emotion is Storytelling 101.
End of icen9ne's quote

 You have a character that against insumountable odds. The TEC. Are they not in their self a character? The game is different that Starcraft or Halo. Those games focus you on a small part of the big picture. Sure you might feel more intimate with the few character those type of game present to you. I for one have found the lack of a campaign or Dev made storyline to be refreshing. I would love for this new expansion to add more back story and more indepth lore. And honestly if you want a character to attach yourself too. Make one up. I have and so have the few ppl I play with. We write our own stories. Play them out. Create our own part of the big picutre. Its the beauty of this sandbox world the Devs have given us. I find myself the opposite of you. I am more emotinally attached to this game than any other game. Only cuz I have taken the void the Devs have given us and filled it with my own story and characters. I suggest everyone do it.

Reply #61 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting RandomRetard, reply 5

Quoting Annatar11, reply 7Well, some of the speech was going to be a bit more coarse, and they were going to have floating bodies and such when ships blew up. Craig mentioned that in a thread a while back. Besides that, I don't know!
And I think it's been hinted at that the TEC swore a bit more and the Advent were.... rather happy with their blood lust.
End of RandomRetard's quote

Hot, psionic and crazy women made happy at the thought of eviscerating their foes..... :inlove: :grin:

/as long as I'm not one of their foes :beer:

Reply #62 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Blair, reply 9
There will be no new playable factions in the next micro-expansion. It doesn't fit the theme and since we are only charging $10 it wouldn't be cost effective on top of everything else that's being added. As I said in the interview, its about diplomacy and non-military options.
End of Blair's quote

I would never expect it to, in fact it was what I was hoping for for expansion 3 but then I have a sneaking suspicion the 3rd expansion will include something beginning with camp and ending in aign.

Either way I'm a devoted follower already.

Although game lore means very little to me I understand it's importance in terms of franchise and appealing to story lovers.

Reply #63 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Blair, reply 9
There will be no new playable factions in the next micro-expansion. It doesn't fit the theme and since we are only charging $10 it wouldn't be cost effective on top of everything else that's being added. As I said in the interview, its about diplomacy and non-military options.
End of Blair's quote

 

Completely non-military? Did anyone else hear in that phone interview that they would be doing something to make cap ships more customizable? Or did I just make it up in wishfull thinking?

Reply #64 from Sins Forums Top

That was in reference to the future, not the next micro expansion specifically. Even then, it's not a sure thing.

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Reply #65 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Blair, reply 14
That was in reference to the future, not the next micro expansion specifically. Even then, it's not a sure thing.
End of Blair's quote

 

Well, if you decide to do it, it will be awesome. Any little thing to trick out my cap ships is always welcome. :thumbsup:

Reply #66 from Sins Forums Top

I'll take one Epic Gauss Cannon of Vasari Slaying on my Kol please, thanks.

Reply #67 from Sins Forums Top

just a tiny bitist of suggestion: I think 4x games like civ iv and gc ii have been mentioned as examples for the direction it could go. I'd like to point out that some of the mods for the former are really cool and maybe those can give an idea also. some elements from rhys and fall or revolutions mods would be what I'd want in civ V and maybe something makes it into sins. sort of like internal dynamics, secession tendencies, new factions/ nations arising midgame.

Reply #68 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Annatar11, reply 16
I'll take one Epic Gauss Cannon of Vasari Slaying on my Kol please, thanks.
End of Annatar11's quote

Weird that you say it that way...suddenly reminded me of the worlds no.1 RPG, D&D.

"Your thief, after prying the chest and cleverly avoiding the poisoned needle trap has discovered that it contained a sword whos mere presence envelops your group with a desire for bloodlust".

-Group backs away expecting something really mean to happen (wouldn't be the first time).

-The group's fighter turns around and points at black robed figure "Raistlin, identify this item".

After a brief word of magic and some "swooshes" with his hands, Raistlin turns around to face his comrades. "Congratulations my friends, we have just acquired an item of considerable power which may prove to be our salvation out of this place".

-WHAT IS IT? yells the group at Raistlin who once again was just trying to build up suspense.

-My friends, we have just uncovered a +4 Vampiric Greatsword of demonoid-slaying.

(2d12 damage, user recovers hp equal to half the damage dealt, 18-20/x3, slashing, 20lbs, two-handed).

 

HELL YEAH! The good old days ;)

 

Reply #69 from Elemental Forums Top

20 pounds for a greatsword?!?! :S You'd have problems finding a sledghammer that heavy.

Reply #70 from Sins Forums Top

I didn't want to add +5 because that would've been a dead giveaway.. though since I said Epic, it'd have gone up higher :P

Reply #71 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Tamren, reply 19
20 pounds for a greatsword?!?! You'd have problems finding a sledghammer that heavy.
End of Tamren's quote

Sorry but I use kilogrammes not pounds...so I make an attempt at conversion!

Complete fail apparently ;)

Reply #72 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

1kg = 2.2 pounds (lb/lbs)

Reply #73 from Sins Forums Top

Thanks!

So I weight 132 pounds, not much for 18 years old :( (1m75)

Reply #74 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Annatar11, reply 22



Oh now that's just wrong!

Only if you're not me. Which, I guess you're not. Sucker.





I lol'ed pretty hard on this one.

Well, Entrancement is perfectly valid. I mean, just look at those Advent curves. And you just know they'd realize that in the future clothes are a waste of valuable resources. Oh, this isn't the dirty minds thread?

Mmm, Advent curves...
End of quote

I second that. Mmm...

Reply #75 from Sins Forums Top

Personally, I am getting tired of patch after patch and then talks and talks about mini-expansions. I want the new material, but i would almost rather you hold it all back and work on it, perfect it, and then release it all at once as Sins Of A Solar Empire II. Even if it takes until next year to do so.