Galactic civ 2 apoc+ other dreadlord missions need tips<Spoiler>

Hi as some of you may know I know have gciv 2 + all the expansions, I bought the gold version 1 year back approx and this is the first of me getting around to playing. Well I did play before once and I just wasnt fast enough or researched in the correct order to enable me to handle the dread lords. If I remember correctly after this mission there is a really tough mission with dreadlords due.

In regards to in game as far as I can see theres a planet at the top right of a medium map that I have to kill asap. Also it seems the ai has all the planets so I only have 2 planets to work with, I made one of those full of market centeres and the other full of research labs and factorys.

To the best of my memmory I got planetory invasion, stellar marines, impulse 2 or 3, lasers III or IV, enhanced logistics, general life support,advanced hulls, xeno factory construction (There was more but this is roughly what I had)

I also was able to build fleets with 12 battle axe ships in them and tryed to spam the enemy planet with them until the defense icon went down then get a transport there to invade but they just kep owning fleet after fleet at the planet.

To be honest I dont really know the game to well and would appreciate any tips people have the time to give me in relation to optimum research paths, essential research, ships, stats of and amount of ships in a fleet required to beat a dreadlords fleet.

I like the game but there so many options :) I just dont know near as much as I need to know and I dont want to play the newer expansions as I wont go back to the older ones and I just think I am getting better value for money and fun doing them in the order they came out. I realise I should probably be designing my own ships , I am going to start that but what I have trouble following in the research is figuring out which research opens differant ships, I am just havent got my head around the format, Very occasionally I see a research sqaure that says ship x y and z needs 3 techs but sometimes I notice some of the techs I already have? (Maybe Im just interpretting it all wrong, any useful info on all this aspect would be greatly appreciated to the point where I know the most optimum paths to get technology and ships)

Thanks!

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Ok I managed to complete the mission but really worried about the apocalypse mission now as the one I just did well I basically avoided the dreadlord ships all together. I ended up comming to the conclusion that my more advanced ships werent worth it, even my cutom ones so I started churning out defenders, I got 2 fleets worth with 8 in each and just sat them near seth, I started building a transport and researching stellar marines, heres the thing I had always kept a ship near my closest planet to seth and used it to take out the troop transports, Im guessing that gave the ai a chance to build up because a bit before I was ready to attack the ai moved up 3 fleets and sttacked, a few seconds later the mission was ended(quite pleased I managed it on normal but Im a bit worried about this next mission, its a large map and Im guessing Im going to have to fight the dreadlords ships, they seem to outclass anything I have so Im just curious as to if anyone can give me some pointers on this mission?

thanks
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Even if someone could send me a save game or profile file(not sure how it works) just so I can load it to see what custom ships the person has built , this would also help me decide what technology I should be researching.

Edit:

I'm guessing the Apoca question had been asked many times then :). I just made the best of a couple of google results I found and pieced together a strategy from a non campaign faq on gciv 2 (Was still decent info though) . Just in case anyone in future has the same problem heres the link, it gives some good info later in the faq about factorys and such

http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/file/925349/41935

I managed to do apoca on normal difficulty after all but it took me a long while , after getting a good few buildings up, factorys and such I then slammed industrial capacity up and research up and rush researched to advanced logistics, then rushed to phasors 2 (I think) , rushed to shock troops. next I changed the slider to favour military and started firing out custom ships I had built(ships had warp drive as well so needed to research that and some hull research)

At this point I needed to curb the DL expansion fast so I had 1 or 2 planets firing out ships and 1 firing out transports and the other constructors. Eventually I took the newest captured DL planets. I then aimed to box the dreadlords in at the planets on the top right of the map. Heres the thing I lost a good few fleets here, I reckon if I waited any longer I would have been dead. I then captured 1 of the final 3 planets , at this point I was weak , luckily the DL must have been as well.

The clinch part was when I got another planet , I got a really good dreadlords weapon and a planet that was ready to pump out ships, I was in the red money wise so I sold the weapon to all the factions, played kinda cat and mouse a bit so all the dreadlord could do was sit in that corner and wait while I kept transports near, by the time I had enough ships the ai sent a fleet up, took a planet and them I grabbed the next one. (Game won)

There was a good part mid game where I researched nothing but this had the positive effect that while I was constantly sending up cannon fodder fleets to the DL, all the other factions ended up getting heaps of tech and I just traded. I know some of you may find this mission easy but this is only my 2nd time installing gciv and about my 4th time playing it and I must admit I found apoca a dam tough campaign mission.

I dont want to spoil the game for anyone but all I will say is I think I will still be playing 2 days from now on a certain map lol, if apoca was anything to judge since Im on a bigger map now. (So so much I could be doing better though I think)

--------Final edit

I managed to finish the game :D , the DL Campiagn. On a certain mission I kinda screwed up as I thought the dreadlords were one place and they were at another. As it worked out I had 1 colony left in a remote area of space and the ai never came near so what I ended up doing was teching up to a tech victory only to find it doesnt do squat in the campaaign lol (I thought that would be it , victory hehe). That didnt work so I spent like half a day getting the vast majority of techs and I created 1 monster ship, lol toal crazy stats and it wiped out everything. Anyway its done and dusted so I cant wait to try the expansions but I posted anyway just in case another newbie trys the same with a tech victory! hehe