Obama Will Not "Unite" the Country

Or any of the candidates for that matter

from JoeUser Forums

I had an Obama supporer recently tell me that Obama is the only candidate who can "unite" America.  When asked specifically how Obama will "unite" us, they went off on the usual Obama rhetoric without giving any specifics, just that "Obama is great". 

No candidate in the '08 Presidential Election will unite the country.....none.  Obama can't even unite the democratic party behind him, much less the overwhelming majority of America.  The United States has two major idealogies going on, each with it varying degrees of extremism and mix of more independant minded voters.  The real problem is, Obama, nor any of the candidates, can really do anything to change that.

People on the left want a more socialist state, where government takes care of pretty much every aspect of your life.  Obama specifically wants government healthcare, restricted gun rights, more regulated business, etc.  Nothing he will ever do will convince a great part of America that those ideas are good for America.  On the same token, it can also be said that a great part of America would not be behind McCain because he supports winning in Iraq, and lower taxes.

With near impossiblity of a real third party candidate even getting near a majority, we have to work with what we got.  Unfortunately, there isn't much to work with, with the two party system we have here now.  With the exception of breaking the country off into two, I really don't see how this country will ever really be "united".

 

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
No candidate in the '08 Presidential Election will unite the country.....none
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Unfortunately, true. The left has shown that even their candidate will not do it. WHoever is elected is going to half of them pissed off before taking office.
Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

Are the left totally deluded?

Do they honestly think that a candidate to the left of Hillary can somehow "unite" a population that centers somewhere right of Hillary?

I think they exhibit a messiah syndrome.

A messiah syndrome describes a situation where someone sees a "saviour" and then starts assigning all possible positive roles to him, regardless of his actual actions (or whether he even has the ability or will to do those things).

 

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
Actually, Obama's more moderate than Clinton if you look at his positions on the issues.
Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top

Obama's more moderate than Clinton if you look at his positions on the issues.

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I don't know any of his positions. He hasn't done anything. He said a few things, but he also said that he now disagrees with the pastor he has just a year ago declared his mentor.

Whatever positions he claims to have, I don't know if they are his until I see him do something about it. And for that he never had the time.

And you don't have to be the president of the US to do stuff.

 

Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Benmeistercomment 3Actually, Obama's more moderate than Clinton if you look at his positions on the issues.
http://obama.senate.gov/votes/ I d say this shows him as quite to the left.
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That's true. These days, being a fiscal conservative puts you left of center.
Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top

Nobody can unite America. If they can, we lose our freedom. The point is that they unite the majority of America, and we learn from any mistakes made. I wanted Huckabee.

Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Benmeister, reply 6
.  These days, being a fiscal conservative puts you left of center.
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lol...the only thing he saves on is the war... doesn t make him fiscally conservative.

Reply #9 from PolMach Forums Top
Obama's more moderate than Clinton if you look at his positions on the issues.

I don't know any of his positions. He hasn't done anything. He said a few things, but he also said that he now disagrees with the pastor he has just a year ago declared his mentor.
Whatever positions he claims to have, I don't know if they are his until I see him do something about it. And for that he never had the time.
And you don't have to be the president of the US to do stuff.
 
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You don't know any of his positions and yet you were one post earlier lying about how you know he won't unite the country.

What a way to avoid reality there.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
You don't know any of his positions and yet you were one post earlier lying about how you know he won't unite the country.
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Talk is hot air. Actions are deeds. You dont have to know his positions to state an opinion on actions. By your rules, we have to muzzle Hillary and Obama.

Come to think of it, that is not a bad idea.  :LOL: 
Reply #11 from PolMach Forums Top
Actions are deeds.
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You mean like Bush's actions of willfully murdering thousands of US soldiers on what could only be described as specious unproven lies in order to start a war where his warmongering psychotic brethren could profit?

The current regime occupying the White House and their followers are nothing more that immoral criminal psychotics.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
You mean like Bush's actions of willfully murdering thousands of US soldiers on what could only be described as specious unproven lies in order to start a war where his warmongering psychotic brethren could profit?
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Ah rats! now he has your address, and the black helicopters are right outside your door! It was fun reading your comedy. I wish you had not pissed off the New world order! :LOL: 
Reply #13 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting The_Politico, reply 11


Actions are deeds.You mean like Bush's actions of willfully murdering thousands of US soldiers on what could only be described as specious unproven lies in order to start a war where his warmongering psychotic brethren could profit?The current regime occupying the White House and their followers are nothing more that immoral criminal psychotics.

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The twisted mind of liberalism.....

 

Reply #14 from PolMach Forums Top
The twisted mind of liberalism.....
 
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Only a republican would view reality as "twisted".

Reply #15 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting The_Politico, reply 14


The twisted mind of liberalism..... Only a republican would view reality as "twisted".

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Liberals and reality have nothing in common.

Reply #16 from PolMach Forums Top
Liberals and reality have nothing in common.
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They are both intensely hated by conservatives.



Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
They are both intensely hated by conservatives.
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So now you are a republican? make up your mind Morty! :LOL:
Reply #18 from PolMach Forums Top
So now you are a republican?
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What form of brain damage must you have for your idiotic ravings to make sense?

Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
What form of brain damage must you have for your idiotic ravings to make sense?
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3 fingers Morty. Only you can answer questions about yourself. :LOL:
Reply #20 from PolMach Forums Top
What form of brain damage must you have for your idiotic ravings to make sense?3 fingers Morty. Only you can answer questions about yourself.
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The question wasn't about myself Dr. I wish I was a guy.

What's the matter you envious because I am a guy?
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
The question wasn't about myself Dr. I wish I was a guy.
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So you are Wisefawn! Damn, and the years have not mellowed you. Still a bitter old woman. :LOL:

Does it make you happy? Your bitterness and hatred? Different strokes for different folks.
Reply #22 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Dr, reply 21
The question wasn't about myself Dr. I wish I was a guy.So you are Wisefawn! Damn, and the years have not mellowed you. Still a bitter old woman. Does it make you happy? Your bitterness and hatred? Different strokes for different folks.
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Wisefawn was exiled before I came here doc, but from what I have heard about wisefawn she was one, not wise, two a ranting left wing loon and three an asshat that put dabe to shame.

Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
three an asshat that put dabe to shame.
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But not a potty mouth like Dabe, so hence the indication of person. If it was Dabe, the 4 letter words would have been rampant.
Reply #24 from PolMach Forums Top
Dr Guycomment 21The question wasn't about myself Dr. I wish I was a guy.So you are Wisefawn! Damn, and the years have not mellowed you. Still a bitter old woman. Does it make you happy? Your bitterness and hatred? Different strokes for different folks.
Wisefawn was exiled before I came here doc, but from what I have heard about wisefawn she was one, not wise, two a ranting left wing loon and three an asshat that put dabe to shame.
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Now are you a republican because of your low IQ and poor morals, or do you have poor morals and low IQ because you are a Republican?
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
Now are you a republican because of your low IQ and poor morals, or do you have poor morals and low IQ because you are a Republican?
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Oh, and one more thing. When you have been corrected, shown the error, acknowledged the error, then to continue to state the error is no longer an error. It is a lie.

Stop lying. It just demonstrates your lack of maturity.