Galactic Peace!?

So I'm playing my first maso difficulty game and the year is 2235. How I made it this far I'll never know... Anyway after a galactic gang up on the Drengin, pretty much everybody vs. them, the weirdest thing is happening. The whole darn galaxy is going peaceful on me! Already three civs, namely the Drath, Altarians, and the Terrans, have alliances with everyone. There isn't even a civ that has bad relations with another. Has anyone seen this before? I know I haven't...

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Nope. But then I have never played till the yr 2235.
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I have never seen it get to that point before, but I have seen it get close. It can get frustrating when it comes to declaring war.

Personally I notice the galaxy is usually a very peaceful place until I start invading everyone. It just seems that no one is really interested in fighting in my galaxy. Anyway, in my mind total galactic peace should be rewarded with something along the lines of a medal or additional metaverse points or something. Just my $0.84.
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It can get crazy in the other direction too: just saw a civ declare war on four minor races and a major simultaneously earlier today. Butterfly effect or something....
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Weird, my games always feature an effect that has the weakest power of the moment being entirely destroyed. Then the galaxy returns to a short peace and then the next weakest power is targeted. Usualy by the entire galaxy. Then again I don't play as high as Maso.

In my latest game I started out with 10 enemies- of which only 3 are left... and I happen to be number 4 in the rankings of power soooo, who knows what will happen next- but I got a baaaad feeling about this...
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Weird, my games always feature an effect that has the weakest power of the moment being entirely destroyed.


That's what uasually happens to me. It give me a chance to piggy back on other peoples war and steal lots of planets from a weakened civ aka the Drengin is this game about 20 planets taken in lightening invasions by me. I really dont want to have to end this in alliance victory, but allying with every civ except for one and then destroying them systematicaly is going to be annoying. Oh well, to war!
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Weird, my games always feature an effect that has the weakest power of the moment being entirely destroyed. Then the galaxy returns to a short peace and then the next weakest power is targeted. Usualy by the entire galaxy.


Sounds like some sort of twisted reality show... except the weakest contestant doesn't get voted off the island, they get wiped out of existence!
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I'm guessing alliance victory is off, so you just ally with everyone, then declare war one at a time. A races allies won't attack you if you are already allied witht hem, so just lick them off one by one!
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Alliance victory is on, but your strategy will work. I just need to be allied with everyone except the race I want to pick off, namely the terrans at this point. Unfourtionately I have other things to attent to at the moment. I was busy building up my relations to get my last alliance and picking up abandoned galactic resources when I got the "Leader X was killed by terrorist group" event. Now I'm at war with the Altarians and even worse nearly the entire map is filled up with those weak "vengance" ships. This is getting really messy.

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Wow, that's a lot of ships....

Have fun!
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i have never seen so many ships before, i have had the event but i have never seen any vengance ships, but then, my computer would not make it if they came, as for the allies, kill them!
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Lol, that is a truly frightening number of ships in that screen shot.

I had a game on painful setting where the remaining AI's allied together and in the end I decided to just do a technology victory and wrap it up that way. They attacked me towards the end but it was too late to stop me. =-).
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That is a frightening number of ships... And looking at all the light blue dots on the mini map there have to be hundreds of ships! Not to mention their real military is lurking out there somewhere. I find it weird though that the AI was abandoning galactic resources so late in the game. Before this monstrosity happened I just picked up an economy an influence and a military. you would think the AI would never give them up. They wouldn't trade me for them, so why just let them go?
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The whole darn galaxy is going peaceful on me


Don't just sit there! Exterminate them while you have the chance!!
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Don't just sit there! Exterminate them while you have the chance!!


Lol, thats what I'm doing! I just dont have the resources to fight eight races at once. I've got a military rating of 280, with my entire fleet and 78000 troops ready and waiting on the terran border ready to invade when I gave the word.

I had to to go back to before all the vengance ships appeared though. I just couldn't sit there and kill them all.
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I've had something like this happen to me. But my galaxy looked something like two seperate organizations of alliances. On the left, Terran, Altarian, Torian etc. Right, Drengin, Yor, Arcean, etc. Something like that. It's peaceful for some months or so, until an assassination event comes along. Everyone, and I truly mean everyone, got into a war or two.

A glorious game that left me giddy for days.

Anyway, have fun with your current galaxy. Wading through those hundred of Vengence ships!
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The AI does not just let resources go. If you see one come available it means the starbase was destroyed. If they were not at war with another major, then perhaps a minor did it, or it was a minor races resource that a major took out.
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The game I'm playing now on maso has the same situation. Of course, out of the 9 opponents I started with, only 4 are left. The fact that you have 8 opponents left is just nuts! I'm currently building influence starbases to take over systems without a war, but I didn't know that allying with the other races would prevent them from joining in. Thank you Feud, and I forsee a quick victory for myself tonight!
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The AI does not just let resources go. If you see one come available it means the starbase was destroyed. If they were not at war with another major, then perhaps a minor did it, or it was a minor races resource that a major took out.


Thats what I thought but it couldn't have been taken out. There we absolutely no minors on the map at the time and absolutely no one was at war. There hasnt been a war since the Drengn were taken out. One turn Thalians had an influence resource, and the next the base was gone so I grabbed it. This is really weird though, and its not the first time I've seen it happen either.
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The Good Altarian and Iconian aligned with Evil Korx. Strange. Have never had to deal with this before. Thankfully.
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Lucky you. It's taken a while but its turning out alright. Three races down five more to go. Luckily alot of worlds defected which really helps.
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nearly the entire map is filled up with those weak "vengance" ships.


Has anyone tried to play through after this surreal ships-from-the-aether event? I haven't tried to process a turn since it happened in my current game, but I'm already curious about whether those swarms of toothless gnats can really do anything besides pick off noncombat ships.

Do they fleet up? Do they try things like waves of fleets to take down a starbase or real combat fleet?
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Do they fleet up? Do they try things like waves of fleets to take down a starbase or real combat fleet?


I have generally seen them all retreat to there home system, taking out whatever un-defended ships or stations in there way. Once they retreat and re-group, they do generally fleet up. At least in my games.
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I still haven't tried to process a turn since the event (busy cleaning up stupid little ships and trying to spank the Terrans hard enough that they might listen to peace offer next turn).

Cevohcam, when you saw that behavior in the past games, were the Vengance ships fantastically weaker than all your combat ships and well-established bases?

In my current game, the Vengance gnats have a 2 in guns and no defenses. I finished the combat parts of the tech tree long ago (game date is 22 Nov 2237) and have all 4 of the military resources on my map fully mined and defended, so I can't see how they might bother me other than breaking the game thru CPU probs or some amazing success thru war-of-attrition.
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p.s. The Terrans were my #1 ally before this wacky event. I know the core purpose of the event is "stir things up b/c the galaxy's been at peace too long," but couldn't we get some sticks in the eye that made a bit more narrative sense for the given game?
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p.p.s. The Leader Assisinated plus Swarm of Vengance event also seems to put ships "in" uninhabitable planets, stars *and* ONE OF MY COLONIES. Any of you "realists" also wondering how this event could be fixed or if it should be eliminated?