Suspicious Aspects...Even Using Imagination; Thread.

Have you noticed any others?

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This game is great but...

-Starting with a medium hulled ship with a survey module but not already having the appropriate technologies.

-Starting with Imperial government; (with no way to spend points in race creation for a government "technology".)

Imagination Reason: One might argue any number of possibilities but they just don't hold credence when compared to the fact that the imagination reason must apply to all the civilizations.

Even so, I like to keep this one in mind...A super rich individual or corporation (Bill Gates maybe) secretly researches and develops a prototype starship. His intention is to escape a growing imperialism on the homeworld and found a new society else where.
The imperial government seizes the starship but finds that the individual and the researchers have gone in hidding. The government is even more dismayed to learn that all of the research data has been destroyed or hidden.
Now as time passes the imperial government must research new ways of governing a growing galactic civilization.

-Wade
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Reply #1 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Have you noticed any others?

-Wade
Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Well, the humans shared their hyper drive technologie, so my people was able to produce those fancy starships. When we first meet the humans then, we aren't able to communicate because we need to research the universal translator first.

How did we ever understand the complexity of hyper drive then?
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Reply #3 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Numbers...
Pure numbers....
Contact anyone?
Reply #4 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Contact anyone?


In Contact, they had a key (built into the message) that taught them the language used in the message itself. Once you have that key, communication is possible. So, UT's wouldn't be necessary.
Reply #5 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
The last thing a super rich person or corporation will want is ESCAPE imperialism. Being rich will probably get you at the top of that empire anyway.

The ship is called the Flagship. Probably an unimaginable amount of resources has been spent on building the thing. The medium hull design tech is simply the tech needed to build medium hulls at affordable prices. How about such an explanation?
Reply #6 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I actually like to decommission the flag ship after I build one with more appropriate technologies for my starting level. Yeah, I know... its very nit picky, but hey, its how I like my games.
Reply #7 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I figured that the flagship was designed with a very specific purpose (surveying/exploration). In order to create mass-producable, multi-purpose medium hulled ships, you need to do further research.
Reply #8 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
you could create a scenario that gives you a small hulled ship that has teh same specs
Reply #9 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Mathematics is a universal language, because 2+2 = 4 whether you say it in English, Italian, Romanian or Yorian (in fact, mathematics is probably the native tongue of the Yor).

It is also perfectly reasonable the the first exploration ship of a race would be a specialty "one off" ship that uses hulls and other technologies that are diffferent from the ones that would be used in a mass-produced, standardised scenario. Think of Henry Ford, automobiles were all hand-built one at a time before he came along and applied the principles of mass-production and the assembly line, and were very expensive. Ford made automobiles affordable, by making hundreds, and eventually thousands, and tens of thousands of them all more or less exactly the same.

Reply #10 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Oooo, don't get me started on 2+2=4 if it's universal There are many philosophers who tried to disprove it and that it comes as a product of society, but that's a complicated matter, and this is not the place to discuss it.
Reply #11 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Starting with a medium hulled ship with a survey module but not already having the appropriate technologies.


I've always rationalized that with one other added fact. In the backstory, Terra's original stargate was dissassembled to create their survey ship and colony ship. Given that the stargate took years of Earth's industrial output to build, they were able to use designs and construction methods that wouldn't have been cost effective in any other manner.

Reply #12 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
From what I understand of the Imperial system, it isn't the same as a Dictatorship. The homeworld has the right to vote on their ruler (though this has no in game effect), but the colonies are disenfranchised. This is down to the logistical difficulties involved in running an election over multiple planets. The Government techs solve these problems, allowing a proper democratic system.
Reply #13 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
For the medium sized ship with survery modules while you lack the techonolgy for either issue the most rational explanation I can come up with is this.

The ship repersented the results of a massive amount of time and effort and money. Far to much for another one to be built in less then a few years with the current level of techonolgy. Now that hyperdrive is out in the galaxy no race has the resources to spare to build another one.
Reply #14 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Mathematics is a universal language, because 2+2 = 4 whether you say it in English, Italian, Romanian or Yorian (in fact, mathematics is probably the native tongue of the Yor).


Though in their case its probably 10 + 10 = 100