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SO I was looking through the culture related Entity Files...

June 22, 2012 6:28:55 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

And I noticed that the Expulsion Buff seems to increase "CultureSpread", but all of the conventional Culture techs seem to use "AdjustCultureSpreadRate"

 

 

Do you think this means that all of the general culture techs don't actually increase culture generation, but rather increase how quickly culture mvoes down phase lanes(when it is moving)?  

 

 

This may explain why The Advent Loyalists even with +50% culture rate can't overpower the culture of other factions- after all if that 50% only affects the rate at which culture moves down phase lanes, it doesn't do much when the opponent has enough culture or culture repel to prevent it from moving at all.  If this is the case, the culture techs are even more useless then I'd assumed(well for anyone besides the advent who get shield mitigation & phase missile block from them).

 

Well then again, I'm not to experience with the entity files and have zero modding experience, so in all honesty I don't know what I'm talking about- my thoughts are merely a supposition created from the inclusion of the word "SpreadRate", so if I'm dead wrong by all means tell me 

 

 

Anyway, thoughts? 

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Reply #1 June 22, 2012 6:53:42 PM
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Interesting...

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Reply #2 June 22, 2012 11:12:43 PM
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Based on the tooltips, I think you're correct that per culture structure, Advent's culture isn't stronger per se.  It will just move into "empty" grav wells faster with the research and maybe overpower enemy culture faster if you have more temples than the enemy.

It does feel like you need to put up some culture centers mainly to prevent your worlds being overthrown.  I guess Advent could be a little more offensive with it using evangelization nodes or more and cheaper culture temples (rebels).

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Reply #3 June 22, 2012 11:37:42 PM
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Quoting ,
quoting post


 

This may explain why The Advent Loyalists even with +50% culture rate can't overpower the culture of other factions- after all if that 50% only affects the rate at which culture moves down phase lanes, it doesn't do much when the opponent has enough culture or culture repel to prevent it from moving at all.  If this is the case, the culture techs are even more useless then I'd assumed(well for anyone besides the advent who get shield mitigation & phase missile block from them).


 

The faster spread rate is not for over-throwing planets but to lock planets and catch up with the fleet to give them the military bonuses. When culture is countered then they have achieved there goal by forcing an opponent to build culture structures instead of trade ports. For tec and vasari this is bad news. 

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Reply #4 June 23, 2012 4:50:40 AM
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Quoting RiddleKing,
reply 3

quoting post

 

This may explain why The Advent Loyalists even with +50% culture rate can't overpower the culture of other factions- after all if that 50% only affects the rate at which culture moves down phase lanes, it doesn't do much when the opponent has enough culture or culture repel to prevent it from moving at all.  If this is the case, the culture techs are even more useless then I'd assumed(well for anyone besides the advent who get shield mitigation & phase missile block from them).




 

The faster spread rate is not for over-throwing planets but to lock planets and catch up with the fleet to give them the military bonuses. When culture is countered then they have achieved there goal by forcing an opponent to build culture structures instead of trade ports. For tec and vasari this is bad news. 

 

 

Which would be much more useful useful if not for the fact that you have to drop about 2000 credits to research both ranks of confluence of the unity after unlocking culture buildings(since you have to get 2 ranks of the first default culture tech first).

 

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Reply #5 June 23, 2012 7:36:01 AM
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Still what is the supposed strength of the Advent then, if it isn't culture? 

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