March of the elementals

working as intended?

Just when I was wondering where did all those elementals went while my champion is looting their undefended lairs. Then the next turn, the alarm of intruders sounded, and I found this:

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I was playing the 1.3 version of legendary hero, on ridiculous world difficulty, large map.

The following screenshot shows where the elemental's home is, to the north of my land, and you can also see Pariden's land/border is right next to elemental's home (the yellow border in the north).

How did this happen? D : Why did they all march towards the player? Is there a secret trigger or something?

So, for those who claim there is no difference between monster attacking human player and AI faction, please explain this one.

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Reply #1 Top

Is there a secret trigger or something?

 

LOVE

Reply #2 Top

RED! The Primal is infested! 

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Cured  :rofl:

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It could be worse, the wildland's overlord could've laid siege to your fortress personally with support of it's entire wildland army.

 

I consider you're pretty lucky that they're mostly weak shrills with few troublesome worms..  hope you have a life hero in the fortress, oh wait nvm you rolled empire. YOU INFIDEL!

 

*Joins the shrills to purge the land of empire folks.*

 

Roleplaying aside, I think you can survive it with your fortress as long as they don't attack in a single turn with everything.

 

But judging from the screenshot's information available to me, I have to say your fortress is toast because I only can see one army? And i'm willing to wager that it's in southwest corner of the minimap.

 

You have 1351 gold.

You could've had some wimpy scouts lighting the land up for invasions.

 

You could've had like two armies for homeland defense.  But.. you're researching instead of building troops. I wonder if the monsters calculated the military strength and has determined that you is the weakest out of all the factions that hide behind the faction power score for protection.

 

Lack of soldiers in the screenshot bugs me. I wish you godspeed on defending your lands from a massive monster invasion.

 

It's just that, When I noticed the lack of soldiers.. I couldn't help but notice it.

And then after when I noticed it, I couldn't help myself but tell you that I'm surprised that your empire haven't succumbed to an barbarian invasion.

Finally when I told you that your puny empire hasn't fallen to barbarians yet, I couldn't help myself but start forming armies to help myself to your tasty defenseless cities.

 

XP

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Quoting Ericridge, reply 4
I consider you're pretty lucky that they're mostly weak shrills with few troublesome worms..  hope you have a life hero in the fortress, oh wait nvm you rolled empire. YOU INFIDEL!

Lucky, oh yes. but about 'weak shrill' part, not really, you know there is always a storm dragon in elemental wildland guarding its lair, right? yes, it was hidding in one of those stacks.

The elemental army attacked my fort in the following two turns without hesitate.

I am lucky, only because my main hero was home for mounts (not in the screen shot, I have two more army is clearing the monsters 'left out' by AIs, after I captured their towns, and yes those monsters are moving towards those towns to attack), and my main army is already enchanted with the spell that gives nature resistance to elemental damage, In the following 10 battles, their blizzard (from shrill overlord), and fire damage did almost nothing to my units. And I have already conquered 2 AI factions near me, by that time. There is really no enemy can stop me already. Yet, I am shocked still by this.

But that is not the point.

Having monsters deliberately target/attack human player is a really cheap solution to raise the difficulty/challenging of this 'strategy' game. If my sovereign is not in my home land, this game is so ruined, and that is not because of any AI tactics which out-smarted the player, and for god sake those monsters are not even the production of any AI factions.

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um...you're playing ridiculous setting. Stuff like this is meant to happen.

 

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Quoting GFireflyE, reply 6
um...you're playing ridiculous setting. Stuff like this is meant to happen.

That is exactly my point. It is a poor choice.

This behavior is not only on 'ridiculous'. Well, not to the same extent. It happened since the first game I played (on normal world difficulty). Not exactly the 'marching against human player' thing though, only because monsters are easy enough that they were killed before they have a chance. Still, you can observe their aggression.

Besides, in map customizing window, the tool tip on world difficulty setting only tells player the change of monster level, nothing about aggression change, which is not helping. So I may guess this 'attitude' of monster is a global thing, not affected by world difficulty.

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I've had Morian travel half way across a medium map to get to my terriory and attack my city. I didn't even know that wildland was in the game at the time. That game was played on Challenging setting.

Thankfully, when the battle started at my city, Morian didn't show. T'was a *bug* After the battle, to which I won, it tells me that I defeated Morian and received his heart reward thingy.

 

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Well its ridiculous so of course its on ridiculous difficulty because it's too ridiculous to think about xD

 

And yes, storm dragon, I've fought curgen's tomb before.

 

And congrats on surviving. I'm slightly disappointed, i wanted to see the fortress razed by the monsters xD