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Who wins: tec or advent?

March 25, 2012 8:10:02 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

 

Scouts/defense vessels + Descipals (steal anti-matter to interupt hoshikos) vs Javelis + Hoshiko (repair etc) 

 

 

Tec opens with 2 military labs then goes for civics and trade

Advent opens with 3 hostility- then goes for harmony and trade

 

Advent spam tier 0  while they save up for 3 harmony temples to trade

Tec spam lrm while they build up civics for tradeports then spend to research hoshikos vai repair platforms

 

Opening caps: hakkan with targeting uplink for tec and Mothership with malice for advent.

advent also add iillums after trade-ports 

 

Who wins?

 

 

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Reply #1 March 25, 2012 4:47:22 PM
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Why would you build an Akkan as an opener just to give it Targeting Uplink?

Why would you build a Progenitor as an opener just to give it Malice?

I hope you meant AFTER you spent points on Colonize...

 

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Reply #2 March 25, 2012 8:52:51 PM
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The Pirates

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Reply #3 March 25, 2012 9:01:04 PM
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Vasari Loyalists.

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Reply #4 March 26, 2012 4:02:30 AM
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obviously it colonizes --lets not get carried away my friends--

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Reply #5 March 26, 2012 9:03:32 AM
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The Disciples will get shot to pieces before they get to steal any antimatter. IF the tec micros though, if the LRF are too busy scratching the defenders to death they are in trouble.

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Reply #6 March 26, 2012 8:17:40 PM
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the advent will.

Now if you go with carriers the TEC have a fighting chance, the Sova will slow advent eco so that they have a good chance to win.  Likewise, with the halcyon the advent will have a lot more DPS and easily attain air superiority.  Also, the advent need not go 3 labs, they only need to go two.  The TEC will have to build repair platforms to survive the quick advent tier zero spam at the very start, buying time for the sova to maximize its effectiveness at their HW.  The player who wins is the one that can do the highest damage to the other fleet to get actual kills.  He who can successfully retreat injured ships will probably become the winner.

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Reply #7 March 27, 2012 12:45:15 PM
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advent rushing to lums fails.  

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Reply #8 March 27, 2012 3:46:13 PM
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Quote sins wiki:

 

The durability of the Seeker combined with the subpar Illuminator in the early game means that good Advent players will often build 20 or 30 or more Seekers to counter an enemy attack of long range frigates.

In the early-game, scout frigates are the most cost effective at countering enemy players' light raiding parties of siege frigates or Ogrovs.

 

Quoting Halos,
reply 5
The Disciples will get shot to pieces before they get to steal any antimatter. IF the tec micros though, if the LRF are too busy scratching the defenders to death they are in trouble.

You can build 30 - 50 scouts with 2 frigate factories and laugh at lrm rushes. You might be able to tear the disciples up but its unlikely you will win if there's swarms of seekers around. 

 

 

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Reply #9 March 28, 2012 6:52:48 PM
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This is a silly match-up...garda flak, carrier caps, and 2nd capital ship choices have been completely ignored...additionally, rushing military labs is a risky strategy unless you are a frontliner...being able to hold off on getting ice/volcanic colonization techs is generally not a luxury most map starts will grant...

And I really don't see where players are going to need to rush military labs first, but have the luxury to spam trade ports early on...

Quoting RiddleKing,
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You can build 30 - 50 scouts with 2 frigate factories and laugh at lrm rushes. You might be able to tear the disciples up but its unlikely you will win if there's swarms of seekers around. 

There is one disadvantage of seekers that is often overlooked..scout ships actually are really bad in attrition battles because of their construction time...while they are cheap, they are more difficult to replace time-wise...if time, and not resources, is your constraint, then scout ships are more difficult to hold the line with...

 

 

 

 

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Reply #10 March 28, 2012 10:14:14 PM
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Why would the troll, Ruddleking, deserve an answer?  This post is probably just more trolling.  In 1.34 the answer is obvious, TEC wins.  Sareth is pulling his leg.  Ignor the OP.

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Reply #11 March 29, 2012 12:20:13 AM
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Quoting Seleuceia,
reply 9
This is a silly match-up...garda flak, carrier caps, and 2nd capital ship choices have been completely ignored...additionally, rushing military labs is a risky strategy unless you are a frontliner...being able to hold off on getting ice/volcanic colonization techs is generally not a luxury most map starts will grant...

And I really don't see where players are going to need to rush military labs first, but have the luxury to spam trade ports early on...


Quoting RiddleKing, reply 8You can build 30 - 50 scouts with 2 frigate factories and laugh at lrm rushes. You might be able to tear the disciples up but its unlikely you will win if there's swarms of seekers around. 

There is one disadvantage of seekers that is often overlooked..scout ships actually are really bad in attrition battles because of their construction time...while they are cheap, they are more difficult to replace time-wise...if time, and not resources, is your constraint, then scout ships are more difficult to hold the line with...

 

 

Lets be perfectly honest with seekers: I've seen you play in a replay and i don't see how you could use them...

Lets be perfectly honest-trade ports: they are easy to get if you can defend yourself while colonizing.

No one cares about starting with civics/harmony temples if there's a feeder*-Can you survive a rush by opening with 2 civics without repair platforms? In the long run i'll get those trade-ports and be able to defend myself at the same time.

I have so much disrespect for you that i could open with 2 revelations and disable your sova's half the time and concentrate my fire on your lrm. I'm sorry but i feel i'd still out number your fleet and win.

 

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Reply #12 April 5, 2012 3:14:56 PM
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Quoting RiddleKing,
reply 11
I have so much disrespect for you that i could open with 2 revelations and disable your sova's half the time and concentrate my fire on your lrm. I'm sorry but i feel i'd still out number your fleet and win.

Such Anger.....Damn that Rap music....

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