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[v0.53]Babylon 5 - Sins of the Younger Races Remastered {Rebellion 1.95+} *UPDATE 22.10.2022*

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Reply #5426 July 29, 2022 4:05:38 PM
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Hey everyone, just a note, I've played a number of games with 0.52 now and the Shadows and Vorlons don't do ANYTHING. They'll sit there the entire game not building a single ship, not colonizing a single planet, etc. This will happen regardless of AI difficulty or settings. I've also gone back a few versions and verified it happens back to at least 0.43. I know they have to be nerfed a little to not just steamroll everyone, but at present they may as well not be in the game at all. They are nonfunctional. 

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Reply #5427 July 29, 2022 4:07:12 PM
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Reply #5428 July 29, 2022 4:15:30 PM
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Thanks, we know. The AI from sins is pretty stupid and has to be worked around a lot. And we are not that good at it   

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Reply #5429 July 29, 2022 4:52:28 PM
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Quoting TobiWahn_Kenobi,
reply 5428

Thanks, we know. The AI from sins is pretty stupid and has to be worked around a lot. And we are not that good at it   

 

As a non modder I'll use non-specific technical language- why not just use "the same AI" as the other races and nerf the Vorlon/Shadow ships if they're too powerful? As it stands now there's no point in including them in a game at all.

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Reply #5430 August 1, 2022 10:01:09 AM
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We were debating running them as NPC races with their own non-player tech scripts but didn't decide. If either race is left to run "normally", that race wins. The races aren't balanced. The Narn are the most challenging to play.

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Reply #5431 August 1, 2022 10:02:24 AM
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I still maintain there should be a middle ground between "steamrolls everyone" and "totally useless"- at the end of the day it's all just numbers.

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Reply #5432 August 5, 2022 7:53:51 PM
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Hey Darvroth. Do you mean like minor races? That's a cool idea. Let's discuss on Discord.

Meanwhile, getting the Narn models ready. Bit of trouble with the AO in conjunction with Remastered. Hope to talk with @Tobiwahn_Kenobi about that soon.

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Reply #5433 September 15, 2022 4:30:49 PM
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Sins 2 announced:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_KcI61tdgI

 

Seems like Epic Game Store exclusive. That is a no go for me.

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Reply #5434 September 15, 2022 5:10:37 PM
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Time will tell. I don't think Epic will be exclusive, though perhaps first for a time. Sort of like how streaming works. The future is murky.

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Reply #5435 September 15, 2022 6:45:51 PM
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I've never had any understanding at all of this irrational hatred people have for the Epic store. It's a platform selling Windows games exactly like Steam. Steam also is a form of DRM. Countless games are exclusive on Steam and nowhere else, as they are for Xbox, Playstation, and Nintendo. It's OK to hate just one of those distribution systems and no others, I guess, but then don't expect to see the games you want developed actually get funded and made. I find this attitude incomprehensible. 

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Reply #5436 September 15, 2022 7:40:59 PM
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In my case it isn't a hate, its choosing an eco system. I used to have an Impulse account when they were growing rapidly before being sold to Game Stop, who then didn't do anything with their purchase. I use Android, not Apple. I have friends who use Apple but not Android. I don't have unlimited funds and must choose where to sink them. Long ago, Steam was my choice, I don't use EA or any of the other publisher sites not out of hate but as a rational economic choice. I wish Epic well but I'm not playing the exclusive game. I'll wait till SOASE 2 eventually is available on Steam.

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Reply #5437 September 15, 2022 8:35:02 PM
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It is not about the store, it is about their behavior as a company and their intentions. I use Apple but am divided on the merits of the App Store case. I do think that the way the did it though and boasted about it is aweful.

Epic loses money left and right on their store just to gain a foothold talking about how the 30 pervent cut of Steam isn't fair while knowing full well that their 12 percent cut is not sustainable.

Valve didn't use the Store to make them (only) rich, they invested in so many things hardware and software and I respect them for it.

I did respect Epic for Unreal Engine and the games until the went tencent and did the micro transaction crap. That is something I do not condone. I still am marveled by their UE5 engine though.

I have a few launchers installed and it took me some teeth grinding to install EA Origin but I was weak. Only played 1 game on it though. Don't like EA and don't like Origin.

I lived Impulse before they sold it.

TL:DR - I don't want to install Epic Games Store and don't want some Tencent stuff on my PC. So I will wait for it to come to steam in 2025 or so.

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Reply #5438 September 22, 2022 2:37:36 PM
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Yarlen posted this on the SOASE2 forums, on the topic of steam support:
Not until sometime after final release.

So there's hope.

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Reply #5439 September 22, 2022 8:17:18 PM
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I would also add that what Tim Sweeny is doing with EGS exclusivity is anti-consumer.  By offering developers and publishers these sweetheart deals, he is trying to force you, the consumer, to adopt an inferior product (the EGS) that cannot compete against Steam on its own merits.

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Reply #5440 September 24, 2022 1:57:44 PM
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Quoting SpardaSon21,
reply 5439

I would also add that what Tim Sweeny is doing with EGS exclusivity is anti-consumer.  By offering developers and publishers these sweetheart deals, he is trying to force you, the consumer, to adopt an inferior product (the EGS) that cannot compete against Steam on its own merits.

Thats the way I see it too.

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Reply #5441 September 28, 2022 6:07:07 PM
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It'll be interesting to see how easy porting mods from Sins I to Sins II will be.

Although I'd imagine animated turrets would bring to life some of the B5 models such as EA Hyperion, Omega & Centauri Primus.

Hopefully, moving ship sections (rotating habitat section on Omega/Explorer class) or the folding "leaves" on a Vorlon cruiser maybe easier to implement.

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Reply #5442 September 29, 2022 4:51:17 PM
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Since each missile, strike craft, etc will be individually targeted and tracked...makes me wonder if they still will use squadrons or if each model will behave independently. Just pondering out loud the potential nuance and complexity this could add to the tech trees.

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Reply #5443 September 30, 2022 12:32:29 PM
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Quoting Darvroth,
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Since each missile, strike craft, etc will be individually targeted and tracked...makes me wonder if they still will use squadrons or if each model will behave independently. Just pondering out loud the potential nuance and complexity this could add to the tech trees.

I don't expect any porting possibility between sin1 and sins2. That would limit sins 2 too much.

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Reply #5444 September 30, 2022 12:39:49 PM
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Quoting TobiWahn_Kenobi,
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I don't expect any porting possibility between sin1 and sins2. That would limit sins 2 too much.

I agree, but people will mod Sins2...I fully expect it to begin even in Beta. Not sure how feature complete the game will be at launch or if each race/faction is adding additional core code/features or merely represent a new spreadsheet of variables and some art for the existing engine.

 

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Reply #5445 September 30, 2022 4:02:36 PM
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Reply #5446 September 30, 2022 4:53:42 PM
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Nice!

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Reply #5447 October 1, 2022 5:14:12 PM
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Very good!

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Reply #5448 October 22, 2022 2:40:52 PM
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https://www.moddb.com/mods/sins-of-the-younger-races/downloads/sotyr-remastered-alpha-v053#downloadsform

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Reply #5449 October 22, 2022 5:11:01 PM
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How many of the new models made it into that build?

 

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Reply #5450 October 25, 2022 2:32:11 AM
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I think 2. The Vorlon constructor and the Balvarin Carrier.

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