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[v0.53]Babylon 5 - Sins of the Younger Races Remastered {Rebellion 1.95+} *UPDATE 22.10.2022*

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Reply #5151 April 8, 2019 12:51:29 AM
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Looking awesome!

 

So ... with work kicking back off with Hael-sose, Darvroth and TobiWahn in the next few months. What can the rest of us do to help assist in getting this mod project closer to the finish line? It sounds like many models are complete and just waiting for texture and insertion into the game? Other than general balance / patch related mod maintenance, what else needs to be tackled?

 

Thanks,

Reuben

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Reply #5152 April 8, 2019 4:38:49 AM
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All the  2D art for the UI including, ship tiles and all the tech screens and in other spots as well. Models for the planet orbitals and a good scrub of the technology the tree and all the ability files and associated buff files. In particular the strike craft still have some bazaar behaviors despite  half a dozen or more efforts to address.

 

I'm sure TobiWahn has more, but that's my short list.

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Reply #5153 April 8, 2019 5:51:44 AM
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Thanks guys!

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Reply #5154 April 8, 2019 5:55:31 AM
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Quoting Darvroth,
reply 5152

All the  2D art for the UI including, ship tiles and all the tech screens and in other spots as well. 

It's harder because most of the research items are story related. How can you make an icon for such?   

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Reply #5155 April 8, 2019 5:56:32 AM
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Quoting boshimi336,
reply 5151

What can the rest of us do to help assist in getting this mod project closer to the finish line? 

It would indeed really be nice to have the buildable object icons (where you click on them to be build) are done. Ships and structures, and also the sprites they become when you zoom out so it's easy to recognize what's where.

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Reply #5156 April 8, 2019 6:18:36 AM
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It worked! Getting the hang of ParticleForge. The charge effect is semi-circular and follows the ship's blue arc. @TobiWahn, I had to move the bomb-hardpoint's Z to 50 so it starts at the center of the disc. Could you update that?

@Davroth, are you still managing the .entity files? I can send you my updates at a later time. Because of the weapon effects, the weapon properties had to change. The damage output has therefor changed (due to FireDelay and PreBuffCooldown).

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Reply #5157 April 10, 2019 2:21:46 AM
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Quoting Hael-sose,
reply 5155


Quoting boshimi336,
reply 5151

What can the rest of us do to help assist in getting this mod project closer to the finish line? 



It would indeed really be nice to have the buildable object icons (where you click on them to be build) are done. Ships and structures, and also the sprites they become when you zoom out so it's easy to recognize what's where.

 

Do we have a style guide at all or examples of what we're trying to match too? I think it's largely just updating a .tga file or two, correct?

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Reply #5158 April 10, 2019 5:16:25 AM
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Ship and structures are easy...just a recognizable outline for the  2D art. There are other symbols aplenty for some key timeline techs but more esoteric ones will require creative thought. 

 

The tech tree could be winnowed  a bit to reduce the quantity but that would require a wholesale rebalance for research time and resources. We also need an upward pointing arrow for the tech screens, the base game has down and right pointing arrows only.

I'll see about rebalancing the tech trees to reduce the icon count as well as theming the needed 2D art. Any interested artists  PM me and  I'll respond by email. 

 

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Reply #5159 April 10, 2019 5:47:37 AM
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I'll proceed by race and screen procession so the effort is more concerted and progress measurable rather than a shotgun approach starting with the EA which has arguably one of the more cluttered tech trees.

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Reply #5160 April 10, 2019 10:39:53 PM
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Quoting Darvroth,
reply 5158

Ship and structures are easy...just a recognizable outline for the  2D art. 

 

I can dive into this over the next 8 weeks. PM sent Darvroth.

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Reply #5161 April 11, 2019 7:22:07 PM
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That's great, Boshimi! Thanks.

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Reply #5162 April 11, 2019 7:24:19 PM
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I've completed the Vorlon Carrier. I went back to the older sketch, but now having the arms as support for the drone hulk.

Vorlon carrier

Vorlon Carrier

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Reply #5163 April 12, 2019 1:33:39 AM
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Beautiful stuff!

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Reply #5164 April 14, 2019 3:10:45 PM
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I forgot the yellow aft burners, and have just added them.

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Reply #5165 April 15, 2019 2:55:04 AM
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Looks amazing!!

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Reply #5166 April 15, 2019 3:52:05 AM
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Quoting Hael-sose,
reply 5156

It worked! Getting the hang of ParticleForge. The charge effect is semi-circular and follows the ship's blue arc. @TobiWahn, I had to move the bomb-hardpoint's Z to 50 so it starts at the center of the disc. Could you update that?

@Davroth, are you still managing the .entity files? I can send you my updates at a later time. Because of the weapon effects, the weapon properties had to change. The damage output has therefor changed (due to FireDelay and PreBuffCooldown).

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Holy F***! That looks awesome. 

Could you just send me the Mesh with the changed hard point? Or do I get it wrong?

As for the entity files, I'm not sure who has the correct ModDatabase version now. I think I have the master at the moment.

@Darvroth: Do you happen to have FileMaker from some source? Version 16 or up? I could send you the master or upload it somewhere and you could enter the data. But I think I would first need to ad support for the buff to allow a ship to ruin a planet? Or is it already in there?

Damn. So out of touch.

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Reply #5167 April 15, 2019 9:54:01 PM
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My moddatabase is 2-3 years out of date and had some incompatible issue with yours. I also have  many  files full of various balance and tweaks I've been working on and play testing. 

I'm fine uploading to your database but I've never had luck the other way. What I really  need is an English translation of the most recent vanilla Rebellion build entity files to know what is  in game. It is so much easier to  modify existing entity files than write new ones though that is necessary at times. It is also a chore keeping account of the ability buff files as they can string together in long complex sequences to achieve a desired effect. 

Of note there are also a lot of needed particle effects for weapons and ship ability files. Most modern files reference existing vanilla effects audio and visual as there wasn't an alternative. 

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Reply #5168 April 16, 2019 11:43:12 PM
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I'm trying to convert a mesh file. Every time i try do convert one of the bin files that is BIN2A it causes the convertdata.exe to unexpectantly to close.

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Reply #5169 April 16, 2019 11:45:53 PM
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[quote who="TobiWahn_Kenobi" reply="5136" id="3744862"]

Quoting afcrobert22,
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Model looks great. Has anyone figured out the issue with converting files from bin. I noticed that previously the bin files when opened the top line was BIN. Now on all the binary files that first line is BIN2A. Where can I find another Convertdata.exe that would work?



What do you want to convert?
 

I'm trying to convert a mesh file. The binary files that are BIN2A causes the convertdata.exe to unexpectantly close.

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Reply #5170 April 17, 2019 12:10:50 AM
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Quoting Hael-sose,
reply 5146


Quoting afcrobert22,
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"As for the mesh problems, I received an independent message concerning resizing problems that I have to look into. When you got a binary mesh you cannot convert try a different convertData exe. That might help"  TobiWahn

Where can i find a different convertdata exe?



The latest version is in the main game folder, where the game executable is located. It's called ConvertData_Rebellion. If you've patched everything, it should be the latest version there is.

 

Just saw this post after replying. When you say " latest version is in the main game folder, where the game executable is located" Where would i find this? Everytime i turn on the computer Steam updates so i should have the latest version of the game.

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Reply #5171 April 17, 2019 2:07:47 AM
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Hi, just right-click on the game in your library list -> properties -> local files -> browse local files

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Reply #5172 April 18, 2019 8:57:47 PM
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Quoting Hael-sose,
reply 5171

Hi, just right-click on the game in your library list -> properties -> local files -> browse local files

 

Thank you very much, that did the trick.

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Reply #5173 April 22, 2019 7:06:54 AM
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Quoting TobiWahn_Kenobi,
reply 5166

Could you just send me the Mesh with the changed hard point? Or do I get it wrong?
@Darvroth: Do you happen to have FileMaker from some source? Version 16 or up? I could send you the master or upload it somewhere and you could enter the data. But I think I would first need to ad support for the buff to allow a ship to ruin a planet? Or is it already in there?

I'll send you the mesh

To destroy a planet you simply use the provided ability, and it works fine. But to use it at the end of a chain (because we want a muzzle AND a beam effect before) is giving me a headache.

Meanwhile I've almost finished repainting and adjusting my other models. Will post some pictures later, but for now: happy Easter!

 

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Reply #5174 April 22, 2019 8:00:07 AM
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A time delay in one of the buffs should give us a close approximation but I'd need to review exactly how the  revs strung together the ability. 

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Reply #5175 April 22, 2019 8:01:19 AM
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Quoting Hael-sose,
reply 5173

To destroy a planet you simply use the provided ability, and it works fine. But to use it at the end of a chain (because we want a muzzle AND a beam effect before) is giving me a headache.

... which is finally working. The PlanetKiller just killed its first planet with it's full effects!

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