MS Throws A Cat Amongst The XP Pigeons

I can see feathers flying everywhere.

http://blogs.pcworld.com/techlog/archives/006751.html
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Well, XP might just be on its last legs after all... according to this PC User article. http://blogs.pcworld.com/techlog/archives/006751.html

It seems sales of XP will cease as of June 08, except for very low end laptops, etc.... and while it may not be too popular with many, it would seem MS resources are to be focussed on the future/new technology, rather than old OSes it deems to have passed their use by date.
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Reply #1 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Such is life, here today gone tomorrow. Ah, what's for dinner?  :LOL: 
Reply #2 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Yep, seems that way Starkers but they are going to continue to support XP for sometime, so no worries there. By my calculations this should see XP users thru' till the release of Windows 7 which is coming along and judging by a statement from Gatesy the other day it may well be with us before some of the doom merchants think. My gut feelings is that they will iron out all the nonesense that was thrown in Vista and come out with something special, in Windows 7. I hope so, mainly because I don't want to put that Vista crud back on any of my systems and just jump straight from XP to Windows 7 with a small outlay in hardware  :) 
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Reply #3 from WinCustomize Forums Top
It's time for XP to go bye-bye.
Reply #4 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I doubt that the June 08 end date will happen as businesses like Walmart still want XP rigs to sale...

BTW Leo Vista works just great for me.
Reply #5 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Too many current XP users\customizers for it to go bye bye in my book. I'll keep my disc and dual boot for quite a while.  ;) 
Reply #6 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Vista works just great for me.
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Reply #7 from WinCustomize Forums Top
luckily i still have my windows XP pro with SP2
Reply #8 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Vista works just great for me.
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Ditto. :)
Reply #9 from WinCustomize Forums Top
actually i've never had any problems with vista even before the SP1 was released..then again i run ultimate x64 and i think 90% of the problems with vista were more and likely were in x86 versions
Reply #10 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I doubt that the June 08 end date will happen as businesses like Walmart still want XP rigs to sale...BTW Leo Vista works just great for me.
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Good to hear, kona.

I've got two Vista discs, courtesy of Microsoft, that I use as frisbies to throw about in my office and they make damn good coffee cup coasters too  ;) 
Reply #11 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Yep, seems that way Starkers but they are going to continue to support XP for sometime,
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According to an aside by Steve Ballmer, mainstream XP support will end June 30 09, by which time, Vista SP2 will have been out for a while, and Windows 7 will be in public beta stage.

I doubt that the June 08 end date will happen as businesses like Walmart still want XP rigs to sale...
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Kona... Wallmart might want them, but MS has decided there will be NO more XP OEM's after June 08. The ONLY rigs that'll get XP installed will be very low end laptops, most likely intended for developing countries, etc.

luckily i still have my windows XP pro with SP2
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As do I... and I'll continue dual booting Vista Ultimate and XP Pro 'til the XP disc and its backup disintegrates. ;)

I've got two Vista discs, courtesy of Microsoft, that I use as frisbies to throw about in my office and they make damn good coffee cup coasters too
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Leo, Leo, Leo...why oh why didn't you let me know????? I'd have happily swapped you half a dozen ME frisbies for your two Vista ones. ;p
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
The problem is large companies are not willing to jump the ship with it yet. Vista is a resource hog comparitively speaking. Northrop Grumman is rolling out aobut 100k computers between now and June 2009, and all are going to have XP.

The NG gestapo will not even allow the techies to evaluate it yet. So MS may not sell it, but that does not mean it is not going to continue to be distributed.
Reply #13 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Kona... Wallmart might want them, but MS has decided there will be NO more XP OEM's after June 08. The ONLY rigs that'll get XP installed will be very low end laptops, most likely intended for developing countries, etc.
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Well after Walmart tells Dell, Toshiba, Compaq, HP, eMachines and Gateway that their computers can not be sold at Walmart because They refuse to sell XP versions things will change. For example Dell has demanded MS still let them sell XP before.
Reply #14 from WinCustomize Forums Top
For example Dell has demanded MS still let them sell XP before.
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Dell can demand all it likes....it's NOT a question of IF. Steve Ballmer announced XP OEM's will cease as of June 08 to all manufacturers (see my post above for the ONLY exceptions)... to make resources more readily available for Vista/the SP2 update and Windows Seven, which he hopes to have in public beta by mid to late 09.

Besides, Wallmart is only a third party player and does not carry the clout to influence squat in this instance. As can be widely read in the media, hardware manufacturers are more than welcoming the more advanced software... in fact they are heralding it by producing more powerful machines/hardware to accommodate it. For example: Intel; AMD; nVidia; Creative and many others are already geared towards higher end OSes and software.

The thing is, Kona, it's called progress... and no amount of kicking and screaming by XP lovers is going to change decisions already made by these manufacturers. ;)
Reply #15 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Windows 7 will be in public beta stage.
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to be honest i would rather have microsoft take thier time with the new OS and make sure when it's set for public release it doesn't have a zillion and one bugs even if it takes like (it may sound stupid) 4 or 5 years...plus i wonder what it will look like...hopefully it will have vista ultimate's task bar,start globe and start menu...or atleast the task bar and start globe...

Reply #16 from WinCustomize Forums Top
The thing is, Kona, it's called progress... and no amount of kicking and screaming by XP lovers is going to change decisions already made by these manufacturers.
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You must have missed the note where I told everyone I use Vista. :)
Reply #17 from WinCustomize Forums Top
You must have missed the note where I told everyone I use Vista.
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No, I didn't miss it...I was referring to the multitudes who will only give up XP when it is prised from their fingertips by the corporate powers that be... those corporate powers who generally agree that computing has to progress and not remain in the dark ages. :)

to be honest i would rather have microsoft take thier time with the new OS and make sure when it's set for public release it doesn't have a zillion and one bugs even if it takes like
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Whatwhere... you might be surprised to see just how far MS has come with its new generation OS... according to insiders/media coverage, it is possible/likely that Windows Seven will be in the public beta stage by mid to late 09 (to test in the wider community) and possibly ready for general release by late 2010 - early 2011.

Just what I've heard. :)

Reply #18 from WinCustomize Forums Top
No, I didn't miss it...I was referring to the multitudes who will only give up XP when it is prised from their fingertips by the corporate powers that be... those corporate powers who generally agree that computing has to progress and not remain in the dark ages.
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The thing is is that they will use XP for years to come. Look at all the offices that still use W2K.
Reply #19 from WinCustomize Forums Top
The thing is is that they will use XP for years to come. Look at all the offices that still use W2K.
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Of course there will be those who will want to hang onto old OSes for grim death, but just as 95 and 98 passed their use by dates, so will W2K and XP. In fact, W2K's coffin is already prepared... it's just a matter of hammering down the final nails.

As for people using XP for years to come, I have no doubt there will be millions who will want to keep using it indefinitely, but its obsolescence has been heralded/guaranteed by MS, and many of those millions will have to move on as their old propriety/OEM hardware dies and XP no longer exists in PC stores.

I suppose another way to put it is that XP is high maintenance too resource intensive, what with all the monthly patches and fixes, and MS is looking to offload all that to focus on Vista and future OSes that are/will become more stable and secure...less resource intensive.

OK, so there will be many who won't like it, but it makes perfect business sense for MS, who really won't be losing customers/clients because... well if they want/need to use a computer, Windows is the standard and has greater hardware/software support than other OSes.

;)
Reply #20 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Starkers - there are people who still use and are happy with 98 and 2K.

I doubt your predictions will come true. I have people that tell me XP is a crappy OS and guess what they use? 98 and 2K.

Reply #21 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Starkers - there are people who still use and are happy with 98 and 2K.
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Oh come on, that's an outright lie. No one is or was happy with Windows 98. And if you are (or where) then you have.... issues.... :NOTSURE: 

Also for people wondering why Windows 7 is so close to the beta stage; Think of it as a Windows 2000 to Windows XP phase. Windows 7 is basically focusing on new features and additions to Vista. It will not be as big of a change as XP to Vista, but more like the transition from 2k to XP.
Reply #22 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Oh come on, that's an outright lie. No one is or was happy with Windows 98. And if you are (or where) then you have.... issues....
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I have people saying everyone who says they are happy with Vista is lying as well. I think if you are satisfied with what you use then you are happy with it.

And by the way do not assume to know what others think about their OS...
Reply #23 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I doubt your predictions will come true.
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These are NOT my predictions! Sure there are people holding on to old OSes and saying that MS will have to prise them from their dead fingers, but the wheels have already been set in motion to discontinue XP manufacture/sales... and tell me where you can still purchase a PC loaded with 95, 98 or W2K!

I had a neighbour who loved 95/98... silly old bugger bought a 2nd PC that came loaded with XP, and within 10 mins of getting it in the door the silly old fossil was replacing XP with another fossil...98 (not even SE).

Thing is, in computer/OS terms, he and others like him will go the way of the dinosaur...


... and several centuries later, one archaeologist says to another: "Oi, come look at this! You're never gonna believe it, but there's a mummified guy here still clutching a Windows 95 disc... and according to carbon dating, Windows 15 would have been around at least 20 years."

:LOL:
Reply #24 from WinCustomize Forums Top
You can't get a PC built with 95, 98 or 2K that is true. You can build a PC and buy a copy of 95, 98 or 2K off Ebay or Pricewatch.

On the same token many corporations will not upgrade from wht they are using vbecause of the expense. They will just find a way to get a 1.2 GHz Dell to run for 20 years.

And by the way I doubt we will ever see Windows 15. At some point I think Linux will take over and MS will fade into the past. Might take a hundred years though.
Reply #25 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Looks like I'm not allowed to edit...

Sorry about the spelling.