Why do they pick on me?

So I am playing on Normal settings with 8 or 9 races...the max. And within 20 turns computer opponets are all ready surrendering to eachother. They can't have "Invasion" yet so WTH?

But the most annoying part is that a race will declare war on me for no reason what-so-ever. Neural Evil good, doesn't matter. Then every other race 1 by 1 will start to declair war on me also saying "Your interupting our trade with X you must be made to pay" or something along that line. First, Good civs shouldn't go to war just because of "Trade" interuption, doesn't sound very good to me. Second, can't you program something into the game that takes into account who starts the war. IM not the one that is hurting your trade...he is the one that started the war. I mean if Brazil went to war with Argentina...would America Invade Argentina and claim THEY were the one to interupt our trade? Just sounds stupid to put it in a real world example.

Good civs should always come to the side of the Defender, Bad civs to the Offender and Neutral should sit out. Russia "Bad" supported N. Korea that INVADED S. Korean and America "Good" helped S. Korea. And they all meet in Switzerland "Neutral" to sign peace treaties. Just my thoughts.
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I'm curious, if Great Britain invaded the Soviet Union, do you really think the United States would come to the Soviets' rescue?

No, good civs shouldn't always come to the side of the defender.
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America good. LOL.. ROFLMAO .. newsflash, we're evil.. EVIL!!!! We're the type of villain that are so completely insane, we think we're good and do stuff for the good of the people. Very much like Bin Laden, so twisted we think we're doing the world a favor.

Don't get me wrong, I love this country. And I love the fact we're so evil we are blinded by its magnificent brilliance. We are the Jeffery Dahmer of the world, Osama is Ben Volonovich, the bully that picked on you in High School. Sooner or later, we'll get him and eat em upl.

This country is disrupting the flow of the natural order of things, that is evil unto itself. We are enslaving the world in "democracy" and "capitalism." And worst of all, we're giving them false hope that they can be like us.. I don't know about you, but i find that sadistically funny. Imagine, the natives of India (I say native with some sarcasm since they had to have massacred someone to get to live there.) waiting in line at MacDonalds. I've seen Indians (the ones from India) eating at MacDonalds. I have taken some of my Indian "friends" out for burger. I knew they were Hindu, but oh well.. AND to watch them eat meat from their sacred animal. I had that tingly feeling inside i just had to run to the rest room. *groan*

I'm curious, if Great Britain invaded the Soviet Union, do you really think the United States would come to the Soviets' rescue?

No, good civs shouldn't always come to the side of the defender.


ROFL... Great Britain would never have the balls to invade the Soviet Union or even Russia now. They lost them some time ago. I think the Germans still has them.

A good and better example would be if Iraq invades Iran. Would we help Iraq againts Iran knowing that Iran was the one being invaded. NAW.. I DOUBT IT..
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Well, Good civs always come to the aid of the victim.

If the British invaded Russia (which is like committing suicide, but ok) i doubt the Americans would help at all, it doesn't benefit them, anyway, the AI is overly aggressive, but once they have 0-45% chance of winning they are all peaceful and ass-kissing type of AI, but once its 46-100% chance of winning, they are all over me like the Borg are to the Federation in Star Trek.

I ain't saying they should just sit there and let you kill them, but the good civs should always try the route of diplomacy and only go to war as a last resort, while the neutral guys, try to stay out of it and the evil guys, resport to combat first like evil people should.

But they all go for peace when they can't win and war when they can win.....and that is such a bad thing.

But in the end, this is just a game, so the AI is not perfect.
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I agree. Some like fighting everything, and complain that the AI isn't aggressive enough. Well, I DON'T. There wasn't a single game where one of my neighbouring empires wasn't a huge bully that kept on harassing me, even on gigantic maps. I mean, let me enjoy my empire-building without having to constantly defend myself against a superior foe.

So fine, I shouldn't receive my winnings on silver platter, I agree, and other empires really can pass me along and become greater than I am. But WHY every single game this empire happens to be right next door to me?!? Every game one of my neighbours keeps pestering me. Even on gigantic maps where there should be some empires long away from mine. Yet the huge bullies are always picking on me, which reminds me of high-school all over again

I want to enjoy a nice game, not constantly fight a losing battle. I really don't like combat. At all. But I don't want to fight a complete dummy by lowering the difficulty level. What I say is: please, oh, please, Brad/Stardock, consider adding an aggressiveness option or slider to the game in the future, so people like me (or usmc210, here) could enjoy their game of behind-the-scenes backstabbing, researching, building and trading, and people who enjoy fighting would have their bloodshed right from the start. Thank you.
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The reason the guy next to you is always a great big empire and bully is because you let him be one. My immediate neighbors are usually only as strong as I allow them to be. I either A. Stomp on them myself graba planet or 2 smoke all thier starbases and take a few resources to mine from them then after a few turns of stomping them offer peace on my terms. Or I pay everyone else to do it for me. Honestly you can do this even if out teched or outgunned. Theres doezens of ways to keep a bully of your back without you being at war all the time bud you just need to find em and use them. Goodluck to ya!
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Wow Achillus...How did I know someone was going to try to make this posting into a yahoo message board and flame it. Thats why i used "Good" and "Evil".

First I wish you would stand on the US Mex boarder and tell all the illegals how "Evil" America is and that the former "USSR" was a much better place, maybe it would cut down on the Immagration problem we have here in AZ.

Second, I ask you to give an example of when 2 Democratic/"Good" Countries ever went to war with eachother. And I mean real Democracy not like Former Soviet Union and Communist China "Democracy"

Third, Your example of Iraq and Iran, Well if 2 "Evil" countries go to war why would the "Good" countries waste Time, Money, and Men?

So please Don't Flame my Post, and certainly if you do, make it sound better.

P.S. Besides the Flamers, Does anyone thing I provided good examples in my first Post.
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O and BTW...McDonalds in India don't server real cow meat. They server either Vege Burgers, Osterage Meat, or Turky. Makes smart buisness sence if you think about it.
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Hey USMC. I was delirious with fever when I posted that. I was only kidding but the nurses got me my meds (after a quick struggle and a broken nose, not mine btw) and now I'm a happy camper.

Anyways, you have my apology. (What USMC doesn't know is that I am only buying my time before I strike.. Mwaahaha)

Yes, I know about India and MacDonalds. But wouldn't it be funny if it was and they just tell people its Turkey. Hmm.. That sounds like a good idea to take over the world. (runs and begins to create his master plan for taking over the world.)
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And btw, regarding the war on Iraq and Iran, we did get involved.
*ahem*

The people crossing to this country illegally from mexico are not the enemy. They are the guy doing the jobs all us evil americans would not be caught dead doing. (unless of course you don't mind spending hours on end in the fields picking grapes) As an evil country, why should we stop this. It benefits us. Sure they don't pay taxes, but they help the economy in alot of many ways. What would california be without the "migrant" workers... Don't bring up the terrorism card, no terrorist is stupid enough to cross from mexico. They would be turned in immediately if only for the fact that if one terrorist gets through from mexico, it'll be much harder for the innocent people in mexico wanting to cross to this evil but great country. And another reason why we should leave the illegal immigrants alone, who would say no to a free slave labor force?

Um.. two democratic nations that went to war with each other. Hmm.. well, you got the.. *gasp* American-Mexican war. Two democratic nations. (don't believe me, look it up) It was a democratically elected government in mexico.

I think that answered it all.
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usmc210: If the defending civ was an evil civ, I seriously doubt any good civ would come to their aid. If they don't jump into the fray on the side of the aggressor (assuming the aggressor is another good civ), then they'd probably just let the two of 'em duke it out.
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Love the evil America comments Achillus! Spot on!

Britain is invading Russia - we are just using state of the art spy rocks to do it for us!! It's in the news!

To the OP - "why do they pick on me?" - because you are an ugly alien cluttering their worlds! Build military to prove them wrong. Yes, it does sound stupid to put it in a real world example.... mostly.... no totally because it is not a real world scenario. Also, do you really know that the AI hasn't got planetary invasion yet? I've seen the Torians research that really early when they have started next to another race.
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Thanks Spearthrower... We'll keep up being evil here.. and you guys keep building super secret spy rocks.

Anyways, don't count out the AI. Probably the best A.I. in any game. Seriously, sometimes I forget i'm playing againts a computer. Props to the programmers on the excellent work on the AI.
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O and BTW...McDonalds in India don't server real cow meat. They server either Vege Burgers, Osterage Meat, or Turky. Makes smart buisness sence if you think about it.


Actually, when I was there it was lamb they used in their burgers..... hmm lamb might be a tad too kind... it was definitely sheep though, perhaps mutton is the better description. Other than that there was only vegetarian burgers - no ostrich or turkey. This was about 7 years ago though so things might have changed!

Actually, you can buy beef products in many states like Bombay, Goa, Kerala as they aren't predominantly Hindu.

In some Hindu states pretty much EVERYTHING is illegal!!! I remember in Pushkar in Rajasthan, going into a small souvenir type shop. When I was about to leave without buying anything the guy came running up to me and said quietly.
"Mister, you wanna buy beer?"... I said no and went to walk away.
"Ganja... I got ganja...." still walking away, he grabbed my arm
"I've got eggs!"..... I was like EGGS!!! Damnit I havent had an egg in weeks!

I bought some bootlegger eggs right there and then - so fricking hilarious to have to go and do it slyly out the back of his shop with him looking about and finally pulling some eggs from a stash at the back..... he even tried to sell me a live chicken - I would have loved to have eaten it if he'd have cooked it for me, but I wasnt going to chop the scrawny little thing's head off just for a meat fix!

Ok..... back to Galciv!
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Wow. Contraband eggs. I hope you ate them deviled, you sinner.

haha I just find that bizarre.
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WHAT?! I didn't know chicken and their eggs are illegal. I'll remember to think of the poor people of India tonite at Waffle House when I order Steak and Eggs. "This is all for ya my poor deprived non-oriental asian friends. " "Keep up the fight."
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WHAT?! I didn't know chicken and their eggs are illegal


heheh - not in most states.... only in the Hardcore religious ones. Pushkar is one of the main spiritual towns in India so they observe high levels of religious restraint. It's a really cool town actually if you can handle extreme vegetarianism! Actually, I think you could buy sheep there too.... I think everywhere in India sheep is allowed.
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And spearthrower, cutting off the chickens head isn't the only "fun" way of killing our feathered friend. Sure, I use to laugh till my sides hurt watching a headless chicken run around. But I'm an adult now (relatively speaking). I had an ex-army ranger, family friend, show me the fun and clean way of doing it. First you pick up the chicken.. Then you start petting it, then really quick, you grab its head and snap it's neck. If you find this too quick, you can try my variation on this technique. You grab its neck and slowly (remember to do it slow or the chicken won't suffer) turn its head around and make it go 360.

But that's just me. I would love to do that to some Torians, but they seem to extract some kind of weird lubricant through their skins. Makes it hard to get a grip. But you know, Torian's taste like chicken. Wonder if they lay eggs.