Is this still the SOASE forums or has it turned into Gamer's Anonymous where we just bitch about things instead of trying to fix them because our own modding isn't perfect?  I'll throw my 3 cents into the ring and hope people start doing the same.  We paid 100% to StarClad for Rebellion, but they've only given us 75% of the game.  We want to use the factions fully instead of having to ban or limit factions, abilities, etc... because of lack of patching.  If StarClad won't move towards balancing out the material, community needs to.

Wail, split damage to 15 damage vs shields only and 5 vs hull only.  Shields gonna drop, but ship not gonna pop.

MAW, 210 second cooldown and requires L6/L8 Titan -seems like it should kick some ass, but not all the available ass.

Doesn't Beam Blast get people all pissed off too since it can generate between 2000 and 2500 damage to an infinite number of enemies in the column?  Shit, people might ban that in MP too...

How about 16/24 targets instead of an infinite number affected and eaten?  Reduce the percentageOfCost from 50% and 100% (silly) to 35%/55%.  Still does a nifty number against the enemy, but doesn't decimate them completely... firepower will do the rest ffs.

Jumping Starbases... Ai doesn't phase jump their starbases, but players love it -DEVS MADE PLAYERS TO DO IT... just did it poorly... Give VR two starbases.  1 is immobile and 1 can move (and phase jump in late game).  I've done this in my little mod and it's not half bad to have a phase jumping starbase (with capital armor so more can fight it) that won't face rape a titan or starbase to pieces.  Yes, link to my mod is easier than linking all the files to the second starbase type.  

get ideas going and then have some of the people who were the uber community reps during beta work something out and get StarClad to work things out.

so you gonna bitch about it or put out ideas to solve issue?  you don't like 15/5 damage split, so what in your opinion would fix it... better... where are the core MP players and their opinions?

Now I remember there is one, What should be in the next balance patch, that is for general balance discussion, and there are many ideas on almost everything that is currently wrong, that's why here isn't many comments about how to make things better I think.

Well, since virtually none of the MP guys know (or care to know) how to mod....yeah, it ain't gonna happen....

Stardock is still supporting this game so modding is a bit pointless.  Once they say they're done and the last version has been played long enough to recognize imbalances that remain then it will be a worthwhile endeavor.

I really hope they don't make a bunch of new races.  To keep up quality we'd have to wait periods of years, and by then, graphics, gameplay, etc. will be continually upgraded by other developers and this game will be irrelevant. If they sacrifice quality there is no point in playing something terribly balanced, I won't even touch it.  If I wanted terrible balance and therefore gameplay with contrived ill thought lore for the sake of more variety I would download mods.

 

I think they're doing fine with upgrading the depth of the game/interface/game modes while keeping it balanced tbh

2009 Juan... you called it... give up, play mods.  

I do think there are definite fixes for all 3 of these abilities that could "tune" them into useful but balanced abilities.  SD went too far with SttC imo, it used to be the autowin strat for VL and now no one uses it because the devs took ALL the suggestions to nerf it and applied them when only 1 or 2 changes to its use would have greatly curtailed abuse of the ability.

So, since its monday and I haven't yet committed to real work yet let me throw my 2 cents onto this dead horse.  These ideas are probably far from original.

SD Mobilization:  I think making it require an upgrade slot (maybe level 2 of phase stabilization, costing the higher 2700/400/225 upgrade cost).  This would definitely make the SB less threatening with only 6 weapons/hull slots to get.  Also, I think the debuffs should stay, and possibly be permenant debuffs on a SB that has jumped, which would reflect the incredible stress a jump would put on such a massive structure.

Maw: Increased cooldown, and also I think a ships' mass should give it a chance to evade being eaten.  Smaller ships (frigates) are a high chance (70-80%) of being consumed while larger ships (carriers, cruisers) have a smaller chance (40-50%).  This would keep even a perfectly timed and positioned maw from being a game ender but would still make it a dangerous ability to account for.

Wail:  To be honest I've only seen it used a few times in MP before it was banned but I think if the damage was tuned so only the 2 highest population planet types (ice and terran I think) would be capable of killing cruisers or carriers if they are maxed out, this would be a much less scary ability, since most late game fleets are almost exclusively made of up larger ships.  Also, possibly make corvettes immune to it (although this might actually nerf it into the realm of SttC and make it a niche ability that is not used in MP, which is not the intent).