seeker13

Join Date 10/2011

Question, I'm a newbie to magic, need help

Ok this will take me a while to go through, I am not here to argue I am only going to tell you HOW I came to this path.... I posted this elsewhere on the forum but I figured I may get a more apt response posting it here. I am a truth seeker. I investigate conspiracies. It has come to my findings that most of the major world leaders and what not throughout time have been involved with secret societies, such as Freemasons, Rosicrucians, Golden Dawn, OTO, Skull and Bones, Jesuits, Knights of Malta, Electric Hellfire Clubs, Vril Society, and many many more...

I have also concluded that our entire history, as well as the next million years, has been pre-planned, it's all scripted. They gave us all religions, be it Christianity, Islam, Budhism, Hindu, Jainism, Paganism, Satanism, Judaism, w/e, as it is all the same religion when you get to the top, same religion hidden in allegories and symbols. What we're looking at is a business plan. An "Age" is 2160 yrs (also called a Platonic Year after Plato). We are at the end of the Age of Pisces (Christianity) and entering into the Age of Aquarius (New Age, theosophy). Next stage of the plan... For we are all slaves in this global slave pen....

I am not asking anyone to agree with me here, I am only here to share with you my concerns and to ask of some advice..... For a while I have been skeptical of getting into ritual magic, seeing the obvious freemason implications with such ritual quotes as for example "as above, so below." I have lighly dabbled in this in the past, before I figured all of this out.... And I am trying to be careful not to fall into what I find to be some new age sensationalistic nonsense. But I do think there may be some truth to magic, beyond all this new age "your aura is glowing" junk. And I find this quite possibly, the only road to higher spiritual knowledge. But, I am still a bit skeptical, as I am somewhat afraid I may be playing with forces I can't begin to even comprehend, and I do not wish to sell my soul, or to put it into bondage via come magical contract. So, I have decided to tread carefully.

I am not into any of this wicca stuff or anything like that, while I do not plan on using such magic to harm innocent people, I also will not be bound by what I feel is new age sensationalist dogma or needless restrictions. Once again, it is not my goal to offend anyone, so if your one of those wiccans or neo-pagans, no offense, we can agree to disagree.

My question is, where should I start for learning magic? Any books anyone can recommend?

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Magic can be a useful belief for anyone that is incapable of living with the sad truth that this dimension, our reality or universe, is without much more than the human animal is capable of perceiving. Life is boring and cruel and there is no guiding hand or unification to anything. Normally I would say get involved with your local church and believe in something ridiculous with the comfort of friends and meatloaf, but you are clearly a loner. So, find the hardest to find book on mysticism or magic. It won't matter which, only that you had to strive to find it. Then, lock yourself in a room for several days and choose a few parts that you find fit well with what you can handle accepting about the real world. Memorize that part and never tell anyone about it, except on forums where no one knows you very well. Now you can be as deluded as everyone else without harming yourfragile psyche.

Oh, and if you have a good enough imagination, buy Elemental: Fallen Enchantress this winter. It helps to play in a world that is interesting and can have the unification you seem to have fabricated for our reality. If you aren't already seeing a psychiatrist, I would suggest that too (after you purchase Fallen Enchantress).

Talk about 1st world problems...

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If you're serious about wanting to learn real magic, get as much psychedelic drugs as you can. That's the only way you'll experience anything beyond the ordinary mundane world.

At this point I feel that somebody needs to tell you something very important. It's not real. It's an industry. And even if there is a sliver of truth behind all the rumors and myth, you're never ever going to get at it.

Consider the two following statements;

One, magic is present in the world and fundamentally powerful. Therefore, the people who know about it have no problem building high walls around themselves and the knowledge.

Two, magic is present in the world and fundamentally weak, limited only to parlour tricks. Therefore, learning about it lacks meaning.

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Quoting seanw3,

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Normally I would say get involved with your local church and believe in something ridiculous with the comfort of friends and meatloaf.

There is nothing comforting about meatloaf!

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Maybe not to you, but it is readily available at church potlachs. There will also be plenty of casseroles if that isn't your bag.

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I can read the tarot cards, that's kinda like magic

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"Its win-guardiam levi-oh-sa, not win-guardiam levio-saah"

One form of magic is incantations, or mantras if youre Indian (sari, wrong number indian, not me scalp um cowbows indian).

what little I understand of "string theory" (from wikipedia) is that all matter (or energy) is composed of vibrating strings.

So, in string theory at least, vibrations from your voice, or just your thinking of the precise phonetics of the incantations (youre supposed to get the best benefits of incantations from just mentally reading the mantras) should theoretically be able to influence the physical world.

an indian friend of mine gave me a book, a second of a series, titled "Part 2: Mantras", which has mantras for wealth, well being, assistance from authorities, even attainment of world peace. (Part 3 is supposed to be "Yantras" or diagrams carved on metal or crystal)

Its not easy to follow the precise guidelines of the book, of course. The repetitions of the mantras are in the hundreds of thousands, the best results are said to be attained when you perform the incantations near a river in the forest beside the mountain, and so on.

its a printed book, and I dont know where to get it, but you could try in "scribd.com"

Note 1. There arent "magical spells" as such, like arcane arrows, just the mantrals which look more like rituals.

Note 2. Indian language is phonetic, so if your native language is not indian, I dont know if your accent is going to throw the string theory vibrations off.

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Yikes.

That is all.

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